Home | Community | Message Board

Cannabis Seeds UK
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Concentrates   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   MagicBag.co Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags by Magic Bag   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Kraken Kratom Kratom Capsules for Sale   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2  [ show all ]
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
Anonymous

Post deleted by Administrator
    #1733680 - 07/20/03 11:24 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineGorian
Learning the artof Shroom

Registered: 04/28/03
Posts: 291
Last seen: 18 years, 7 months
Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: YellowPurpleHills]
    #1734143 - 07/21/03 03:48 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

The last 2 times i've tripped on mushrooms i've had after trip depression , i've been wanting to know more about it also


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinest0nedphucker
Rogue State
Male
Registered: 04/17/03 Happy 21st Shroomiversary!
Posts: 1,047
Loc: Wales (yes it is a countr...
Last seen: 15 years, 9 months
Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: Gorian]
    #1734335 - 07/21/03 07:06 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

5-HTP would raise the level of serotonin in your brain, and is usefull if you are surrefering depression, insomnia and anxiety. However the symptoms may not be caused simply be low serotonin levels, it could be caused by an imbalance in relation to other chemicals in your brain. I would recommend it if you feel that you are unable to cope with the after-effects, you could also try meditation before trips as the depression could be a psychological response not a chemical one. I dont feel depressed after tripping but I usually feel a little "hazy" and my emotions seem either a little more volatile or supressed.... IMO these effects are "payment" for the experience the shrooms have given you.


--------------------
The punishment which the wise suffer, who refuse to take part in government, is to live under the government of worse men.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineEdge
I like plants

Registered: 04/12/03
Posts: 972
Loc: Machu Pichu
Last seen: 12 years, 2 months
Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: st0nedphucker]
    #1734572 - 07/21/03 10:29 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

in my opinion its a phychological thing. i have only tripped twice. after the first time i felt kinda uneasy in the world... not sad, but not happy... it was like i felt nothing and nothing mattered. it only lasted about a week getting weaker and weaker as the days went by. the second time i had a bad trip, which sucked, and those negative effects that i mentioned have stayed with me until this day. slowly, however, i have been pulling myself out of it with my perception of the world and things around me.

so, you're problem may just be how you percieve things after you trip, which for me, and im sure others, is very different then from before you tripped.

did that make sense?

probably not...


--------------------
Check Out My "A Report w/ pics and links--FAE, RH, Casings, Cakes, Polyfil, And A Simple Setup And More!"

"For every action there is a reaction; and a Paykie reaction, is quite a fuckin thing"
--Turkish of Snatch

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibletheshiftingwalls
Divine state

Registered: 06/18/03
Posts: 4,128
Loc: Residing in thee Universa...
Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: Edge]
    #1735270 - 07/21/03 02:33 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Try St. John's Wort if your feeling down after a trip. It really really?help's me every time after a trip. I like this herb because its nice and gentle. If this doesn't help you nothing will.

My recommendation:
Fresh St. John's Wort (Hypericum perforatum) extract.
Take 300 mg 4 times each day (2 in morning, 2 at night).
Take dosage for 2 weeks and you will totally recover.

Hope it helps ya.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Anonymous

Post deleted by Administrator [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1735621 - 07/21/03 04:18 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAstrok
Trying To BeCool

Registered: 07/20/03
Posts: 265
Loc: Bozeman, Montana
Last seen: 18 years, 8 months
Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: YellowPurpleHills]
    #1735707 - 07/21/03 04:36 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

How about you dont rip if it makes you uneasy the next few days...? Just a suggestion.


--------------------
"Light that shit"
"Smoke that shit"
"Pass that shit"

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAstrok
Trying To BeCool

Registered: 07/20/03
Posts: 265
Loc: Bozeman, Montana
Last seen: 18 years, 8 months
Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: Astrok]
    #1735726 - 07/21/03 04:41 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

trip*


--------------------
"Light that shit"
"Smoke that shit"
"Pass that shit"

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibletheshiftingwalls
Divine state

Registered: 06/18/03
Posts: 4,128
Loc: Residing in thee Universa...
Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: Astrok]
    #1735978 - 07/21/03 06:01 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

>What does the St. John wort do that 5-HTP doesn't? just curious

5-HTP raises serotonin levels and St. John's Wort balances your brain chemistry (its actual effects on the brain are unknown to this day).

St. John's Wort was also used in dark ages in england to rid the evil out of ones soul.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineZahid
Stranger
Registered: 01/21/02
Posts: 4,779
Last seen: 19 years, 6 months
Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: YellowPurpleHills]
    #1736589 - 07/21/03 10:02 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

That's strange. I am normally euphoric the first two days after I trip.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Anonymous

Post deleted by Administrator [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1736663 - 07/21/03 10:31 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineShamanSean
the MilitantMind

Registered: 11/20/02
Posts: 435
Loc: CA, USA, the Bay Area
Last seen: 20 years, 3 months
Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: YellowPurpleHills]
    #1737071 - 07/22/03 12:50 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

ive been feeling the same way the past few trips. im trippin now and im feeling depressed. im gonna go drink and experiment, it shouldent kik in right (the drank)


--------------------
"So take my advice and dont quit. Cuz if u do, you wont get shit - bitch! "

-Too Short

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineteonacatl
Shaman

Registered: 07/20/03
Posts: 26
Loc: USA
Last seen: 20 years, 7 months
Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: ShamanSean]
    #1737207 - 07/22/03 02:01 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

I have never had a problem with after trip depression, but my friends have..and many of my case studies have as well (I am a psychology grad student..my masters thesis was on the effects of shrooms)
Psilocybin is very similar in structure to Seratonin, and it affects your brain in much the same way, so it may be that your brain compensates by producing less seratonin...thus when the shrooms wear off, you don't have enough. Perhaps an SSRI (selective seratonin reuptake inhibitor) would help, but it very well may boost your trip as well...a little more than you may want. Not to mention that all SSRI's are by prescription only within the USA.
The suggestions given above are also very sane; I may suggest doing something stimulating after the trip, as it may be the overload of endorphins (chemicals telling your brain that you are having fun) during the trip that cause this. Meditation before and after, even during the trip is probably the best idea I have heard.
If you can do it, what worked for my friend is simply to go to sleep as your trip winds down...but not everyone can do that.
It is interesting that you experience this, it is not all that common with psilocybin as it is with LSD. About 70 percent of people who take shrooms feel just the opposite after they come down!


--------------------
All information contained above is completely fictional, a product of the authors imagination.
Do what thou Wilt shall be the Whole of the Law.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineGorian
Learning the artof Shroom

Registered: 04/28/03
Posts: 291
Last seen: 18 years, 7 months
Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: teonacatl]
    #1738341 - 07/22/03 01:27 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Well , i doubt any endorphins were being overloaded my last trip , it was a bad one, but i still had after-trip depression. I still do.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibletheshiftingwalls
Divine state

Registered: 06/18/03
Posts: 4,128
Loc: Residing in thee Universa...
Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: Gorian]
    #1738372 - 07/22/03 01:38 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Gorian go run to your local health food store and get some fresh St. John's Wort and 5-htp....

Then its all good :thumbup:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Anonymous

Post deleted by Administrator [Re: teonacatl]
    #1738591 - 07/22/03 02:56 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineShamanSean
the MilitantMind

Registered: 11/20/02
Posts: 435
Loc: CA, USA, the Bay Area
Last seen: 20 years, 3 months
Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: YellowPurpleHills]
    #1740291 - 07/23/03 01:04 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

wats 5-htp?


--------------------
"So take my advice and dont quit. Cuz if u do, you wont get shit - bitch! "

-Too Short

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleCracka_X
Spiritual Dirt Worshipper
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 01/25/03
Posts: 8,808
Loc: Swamp
Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: ShamanSean]
    #1740303 - 07/23/03 01:16 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

5-htp is a chem that ur brain produces and with that chem being produced reacts with another chem in the brain to make Serotonin.

5-htp is ideal for rolling since that's serotonin based.
I take it for when I goto sleep late n want to want up in the mornin' fresh or after I trip.

I think shrooms affecet the serotonin so I take 5-htp afterwards n stack up before, but I remember reading a post suggesting something different.

Idk and don't really care but 5-htp gives you a "high on life" feel if you take it regularly.

If you lookin for it:
GNC is a motherfucker when they price the shit. Goto Walmart, they will have it.


--------------------
The best way to live
is to be like water
For water benefits all things
and goes against none of them
It provides for all people
and even cleanses those places
a man is loath to go
In this way it is just like Tao        ~Daodejing

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineDoctorJ
Male

Registered: 06/30/03
Posts: 8,846
Loc: space
Last seen: 1 year, 5 months
Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1743282 - 07/23/03 11:29 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

like I always used to say:
"When you take psychedelics, you use up all of your happy moments for the whole next week in six hours."

I always take 5htp after trippin or rolling. also, SAMe is a good replenisher of all neurochemicals.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Anonymous

Post deleted by Administrator [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1743784 - 07/24/03 04:59 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleCracka_X
Spiritual Dirt Worshipper
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 01/25/03
Posts: 8,808
Loc: Swamp
Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: YellowPurpleHills]
    #1745645 - 07/24/03 06:31 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

yea that's a better deal than what walmart got.

Walmart is $7 45 pills with 50mg


--------------------
The best way to live
is to be like water
For water benefits all things
and goes against none of them
It provides for all people
and even cleanses those places
a man is loath to go
In this way it is just like Tao        ~Daodejing

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Anonymous

Post deleted by Administrator [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1748098 - 07/25/03 12:28 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSurwinMaxawow
TONKA TOY
Male User Gallery

Registered: 07/17/02
Posts: 209
Last seen: 17 years, 1 month
Re: After trip Depression...SAM-e!!! [Re: YellowPurpleHills]
    #1750276 - 07/26/03 06:59 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

You all should really discover a little something called SAM-e. SAM-e quite simply KICKS DEPRESSION's ASS! Its also very good for you and your brain. It helps detoxify your body and liver, and helps to restore your brain's chemistry, especially dopamine and seritonin. SAM-e is short for a long chemical name....a chemical that is found in ever cell in the body, especially the brain from what I understand. Without SAM-e, your brain and body wouldnt work right, and I have read that SAM-e deficiancy is one of the causes several kinds of mental disorders including depression. It is what helps your body's cells to function properly. One other great thing about it is that it works very quickly, often within one or two days of use compared to other anti-depressiants which can take weeks to fully kick in. Even when I'm coming off prescription speed (Dexedrine), I will take about 800 mgs of SAM-e, and no joke...it almost totally saves me from the horrible come down side of amphetamines. Note...you must take SAM-e with plenty of B-complex vitamins because they are what help it work...especially vitamin B-12. I have read that SAM-e can actually be bad for you unless its taken with B vitamins, so keep that in mind. 
The only problem with it is the price. Unfortunately its not cheap stuff. But if you are looking for the ultimate weapon agaisnt depression (in my experience) its worth the money....every penny. 
I also have been on Paxil and 5htp many times. I still take Paxil right now to help combate my anxiety and OCD. But SAM-e works TONS better than Paxil or anything else I have tried. Its also something you cant very easily overdose from or get too much of, provided you are taking it with plenty of B complex.
So check it out, and LET IT BE KNOWN THAT SAM-E KICKS THE SHIT OUT OF DEPRESSION. If depression was like a real monster, then it would probably tremble with fear at the very mention of SAM-e. I can just imagine a TV commercial using that idea. HAHA, :smile:
PEACE. 

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2  [ show all ]

Shop: Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Concentrates   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   MagicBag.co Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags by Magic Bag   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Kraken Kratom Kratom Capsules for Sale   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Your BEST/FAVORITE Trip Tips
( 1 2 3 4 all )
Delyrium 15,955 76 05/25/02 05:47 PM
by PANTERA54
* My first trip, this monday *DELETED* Galvie_Flu 1,144 11 07/22/02 01:01 PM
by WhiskeyClone
* Love to Low Dose
( 1 2 3 all )
Ripple 10,523 44 02/17/06 07:51 PM
by Shnezbit
* Your top 3 Drugs in order.
( 1 2 3 4 ... 10 11 all )
Vandenberg 32,757 211 10/01/14 01:38 AM
by searching
* Gonna eat my second time later this week! *DELETED* Galvie_Flu 1,238 14 08/16/02 10:20 AM
by Canucklehead
* Tripping with a questionable friend: advice requested.
( 1 2 3 all )
Seeka 8,123 41 11/05/19 01:11 AM
by Shr00mEater
* Trip Movies!
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 all )
LeGrouper 33,078 147 03/02/23 10:42 AM
by Neurotech
* Do this with close friends ralph snart111 1,428 13 02/07/03 07:18 AM
by cybrbeast

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: psilocybinjunkie
2,493 topic views. 0 members, 3 guests and 2 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.024 seconds spending 0.005 seconds on 12 queries.