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Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: YellowPurpleHills]
    #1734143 - 07/21/03 05:48 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

The last 2 times i've tripped on mushrooms i've had after trip depression , i've been wanting to know more about it also


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Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: Gorian]
    #1734335 - 07/21/03 09:06 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

5-HTP would raise the level of serotonin in your brain, and is usefull if you are surrefering depression, insomnia and anxiety. However the symptoms may not be caused simply be low serotonin levels, it could be caused by an imbalance in relation to other chemicals in your brain. I would recommend it if you feel that you are unable to cope with the after-effects, you could also try meditation before trips as the depression could be a psychological response not a chemical one. I dont feel depressed after tripping but I usually feel a little "hazy" and my emotions seem either a little more volatile or supressed.... IMO these effects are "payment" for the experience the shrooms have given you.


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Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: st0nedphucker]
    #1734572 - 07/21/03 12:29 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

in my opinion its a phychological thing. i have only tripped twice. after the first time i felt kinda uneasy in the world... not sad, but not happy... it was like i felt nothing and nothing mattered. it only lasted about a week getting weaker and weaker as the days went by. the second time i had a bad trip, which sucked, and those negative effects that i mentioned have stayed with me until this day. slowly, however, i have been pulling myself out of it with my perception of the world and things around me.

so, you're problem may just be how you percieve things after you trip, which for me, and im sure others, is very different then from before you tripped.

did that make sense?

probably not...


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Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: Edge]
    #1735270 - 07/21/03 04:33 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Try St. John's Wort if your feeling down after a trip. It really really?help's me every time after a trip. I like this herb because its nice and gentle. If this doesn't help you nothing will.

My recommendation:
Fresh St. John's Wort (Hypericum perforatum) extract.
Take 300 mg 4 times each day (2 in morning, 2 at night).
Take dosage for 2 weeks and you will totally recover.

Hope it helps ya.



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Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: YellowPurpleHills]
    #1735707 - 07/21/03 06:36 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

How about you dont rip if it makes you uneasy the next few days...? Just a suggestion.


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Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: Astrok]
    #1735726 - 07/21/03 06:41 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: Astrok]
    #1735978 - 07/21/03 08:01 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

>What does the St. John wort do that 5-HTP doesn't? just curious

5-HTP raises serotonin levels and St. John's Wort balances your brain chemistry (its actual effects on the brain are unknown to this day).

St. John's Wort was also used in dark ages in england to rid the evil out of ones soul.


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Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: YellowPurpleHills]
    #1736589 - 07/22/03 12:02 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

That's strange. I am normally euphoric the first two days after I trip.


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Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: YellowPurpleHills]
    #1737071 - 07/22/03 02:50 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

ive been feeling the same way the past few trips. im trippin now and im feeling depressed. im gonna go drink and experiment, it shouldent kik in right (the drank)


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Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: ShamanSean]
    #1737207 - 07/22/03 04:01 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I have never had a problem with after trip depression, but my friends have..and many of my case studies have as well (I am a psychology grad student..my masters thesis was on the effects of shrooms)
Psilocybin is very similar in structure to Seratonin, and it affects your brain in much the same way, so it may be that your brain compensates by producing less seratonin...thus when the shrooms wear off, you don't have enough. Perhaps an SSRI (selective seratonin reuptake inhibitor) would help, but it very well may boost your trip as well...a little more than you may want. Not to mention that all SSRI's are by prescription only within the USA.
The suggestions given above are also very sane; I may suggest doing something stimulating after the trip, as it may be the overload of endorphins (chemicals telling your brain that you are having fun) during the trip that cause this. Meditation before and after, even during the trip is probably the best idea I have heard.
If you can do it, what worked for my friend is simply to go to sleep as your trip winds down...but not everyone can do that.
It is interesting that you experience this, it is not all that common with psilocybin as it is with LSD. About 70 percent of people who take shrooms feel just the opposite after they come down!


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Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: teonacatl]
    #1738341 - 07/22/03 03:27 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Well , i doubt any endorphins were being overloaded my last trip , it was a bad one, but i still had after-trip depression. I still do.


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Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: Gorian]
    #1738372 - 07/22/03 03:38 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Gorian go run to your local health food store and get some fresh St. John's Wort and 5-htp....

Then its all good :thumbup:


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Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: YellowPurpleHills]
    #1740291 - 07/23/03 03:04 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

wats 5-htp?


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Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: ShamanSean]
    #1740303 - 07/23/03 03:16 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

5-htp is a chem that ur brain produces and with that chem being produced reacts with another chem in the brain to make Serotonin.

5-htp is ideal for rolling since that's serotonin based.
I take it for when I goto sleep late n want to want up in the mornin' fresh or after I trip.

I think shrooms affecet the serotonin so I take 5-htp afterwards n stack up before, but I remember reading a post suggesting something different.

Idk and don't really care but 5-htp gives you a "high on life" feel if you take it regularly.

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Re: After trip Depression... 5-htp? [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1743282 - 07/24/03 01:29 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

like I always used to say:
"When you take psychedelics, you use up all of your happy moments for the whole next week in six hours."

I always take 5htp after trippin or rolling. also, SAMe is a good replenisher of all neurochemicals.


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