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 RageQuit4Life
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 Losing the magic? (MDMA) 
#17336531 - 12/05/12 03:10 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've rolled on MDMA 3 times in a week (not good idea).
I took a break for 1 month and rolled with 133 mg and feel roll hard at the peak and dropped really fast with non-special feelin roll.
I'm concern about my "lose the magic" roll, if I'm victim of lose the magic then it is permanent? I hope not! I LOVE MDMA so MUCH! Man, I hope you guys will give me a good news instead of bad one.
Thanks!
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A month isnt a very long break when you think about it. Give it a good few months, maybe six, if you want it to feel really special again.
Hang on, do you mean you
Rolled 3 times in a week THEN took a break, or vice versa?
Because the latter is self explanitory.
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RageQuit4Life
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Yeah rolled 3 times in a week then took a month break.
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MDMA doesn't do it for me anymore. i didn't even overdo it either, a few times over a few years. This is good quality stuff mind you. Just makes me feel "off" and a bit speedy but not a good euphoric tweak and nothing like the first couple of times.
These days if I wanted stimulation I'd go with meth. If wanted empathy and euphoria I'd go with a nice low dose of shrooms. Shroomies never lose their magic 
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Re: Losing the magic? (MDMA) [Re: Dawks]
#17336937 - 12/05/12 07:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea, I maybe dose MDma a cpl times a year now days, but I used to do it like every weekend my 1st year of college.. that was like 7 yrs ago and to this day MDMA still doesn't feel like it used to. Don't get me wrong I still roll, but its nothing like the magic it used to be. 
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Re: Losing the magic? (MDMA) [Re: Kief Ledger]
#17337664 - 12/05/12 10:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's a tricky one...I've been using MDMA since the mid/late 90s and have never lost the magic. I've heard some people who have and some people who haven't. I know partygoers and ravers who have been taking MDMA since the late 80s (often every weekend) and they can still take MDMA to this day with their missing teeth that they've literally grinded out of their mouth years ago and still have a great night...it shocks me to be honest but I can personally attest that these guys are definitely rolling too lol.
I have always used the month rule even when most people didn't know you could 'lose the magic' purely because I wanted the experience to be fresh each time...part of the reason I got into psychedelics was to give me something else to take in my MDMA tolerance breaks, but more often than not I would go 3 months without MDMA...and sometimes even a year depending on how things go.
Rather than 'losing the magic' as a chemical/tolerance based effect (Which can definitely happen and normally takes a few years to recover) I think a lot of people just simply get bored of MDMA or too used to the effects. IMO it all depends on how you treat the drug and what you get out of the experience. I love my psychedelics but MDMA will always be the ultimate drug for me, it just works perfectly with me...I rarely get a comedown besides feeling groggy and tired from dancing and it's made so many great memories so I've always made sure that I treat it with a lot of respect and only do it when I see an opportunity that looks perfectly suited to rolling.
But yeah, from my experience that's what I have to say about the whole losing the magic thing. I could talk about how much I love MDMA for paragraphs and paragraphs LOL don't encourage me.
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el_barto
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i also love mdma. The problem is spacing it out. Havent lost the magic yet 
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Re: Losing the magic? (MDMA) [Re: el_barto]
#17338263 - 12/05/12 12:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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What's the deal with magic loss? Is it neurochemical? Or just a loss of novelty being that everything is better the first time?
I just picked up a gram of molly the other day and want to make sure I spread it out properly to avoid ever losing the fun of the experience. First and only time I rolled was during the summer so I'm going to do it over the break once, but from there on I can't seem to find a good way to maintain low tolerance/magic.
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el_barto
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as long as you put a few weeks between each use. its tough though when you have a bunch around all the time. did you test the molly?
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Re: Losing the magic? (MDMA) [Re: el_barto]
#17338844 - 12/05/12 02:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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bonafib said:
as long as you put a few weeks between each use. its tough though when you have a bunch around all the time. did you test the molly?
Have not but it's from a pretty reliable source. I know that doesn't guarantee it's not an analogue, but I'm confident I won't die or anything haha. I plan to put far more than a few weeks between. I only bought that much because the price was unbeatable. Just wasn't sure what's "recommended" for this stuff. I've always thought 1 month MINIMUM to prevent damage but wasn't really sure as far as loss of magic goes.
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el_barto
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is it white powder? just wondering. or shards?
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Re: Losing the magic? (MDMA) [Re: el_barto]
#17338983 - 12/05/12 02:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Jackson, I'd say at least a cpl months apart to play it safe. Also I think alot of it has to do with over doing it. When I used to roll often, I would take 3,4 beans off the rip. Not knowing how strong they were, or what was in them. I did this both because I was basically doing it just to get fucked up and to make up for alot of the shitty pills, and because I was chasing that first awesome roll over and over. Moderation is the key here. Use sparingly and not too often and i think you'll be fine.
Insidentally, anyone out there which can't get there with x. Try some mescaline. Closest I have came to rolling my nuts off in a long time
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Re: Losing the magic? (MDMA) [Re: Kief Ledger]
#17339554 - 12/05/12 04:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kief Ledger said:
Jackson, I'd say at least a cpl months apart to play it safe. Also I think alot of it has to do with over doing it. When I used to roll often, I would take 3,4 beans off the rip. Not knowing how strong they were, or what was in them. I did this both because I was basically doing it just to get fucked up and to make up for alot of the shitty pills, and because I was chasing that first awesome roll over and over. Moderation is the key here. Use sparingly and not too often and i think you'll be fine.
Insidentally, anyone out there which can't get there with x. Try some mescaline. Closest I have came to rolling my nuts off in a long time
Thanks  I've already promised to keep myself at .2 or lower. Hopefully that saves me the loss. I'm not big into MDMA though and could never see myself overdoing it. I mean I lovvvvvvveeee the high, but compared to acid/mush/dmt I just don't find myself having the desire to do it often.
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I can see how MDMA has lost the magic for me. I like it still, and wouldn't pass it up if it was being offered to me by anymeans, but if I had to choose from buying MDMA and LSD, I would choose LSD. If I had to choose between MDMA and Cocaine, I would choose the Cocaine. However, MDMA still holds a spot in my ever changing list of top 5 favorite drugs.
Alot of people find the effects of MDMA too subtle and subjective, which is completely understable being an MDMA user. I really do have to look for the effects as I do with most drugs at this point. I guess I just expect an effect from a drug, then the placebo effects kick-in and it gets dramaticized by the actual drugs. Not a good thing... not good AT ALL.
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Kief Ledger
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Quote:
JacksonMetaller said:
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Kief Ledger said:
Jackson, I'd say at least a cpl months apart to play it safe. Also I think alot of it has to do with over doing it. When I used to roll often, I would take 3,4 beans off the rip. Not knowing how strong they were, or what was in them. I did this both because I was basically doing it just to get fucked up and to make up for alot of the shitty pills, and because I was chasing that first awesome roll over and over. Moderation is the key here. Use sparingly and not too often and i think you'll be fine.
Insidentally, anyone out there which can't get there with x. Try some mescaline. Closest I have came to rolling my nuts off in a long time
Thanks I've already promised to keep myself at .2 or lower. Hopefully that saves me the loss. I'm not big into MDMA though and could never see myself overdoing it. I mean I lovvvvvvveeee the high, but compared to acid/mush/dmt I just don't find myself having the desire to do it often.
I agree, I wish I had access to the variety of substances I do today. Or the self control. It was all about getting fucked up and partying back then though.
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