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OfflineThatKFCguy
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Very successful with monotubs, now its time to move on.
    #17336333 - 12/05/12 01:09 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hello shroomery, long time lurker here first time poster.  I've been using monotubs for close to a year now with varying amounts of success up until about 2 months ago when I really kicked my cleanliness into gear.  I wrapped a spare room with plastic wrap and have got it pretty dang clean.  Got a purifier running 24/7, I doubt it helps too much but figured it wouldn't hurt.  I currently have around 6-10 66 quart tubs going at a time using a variation of TLs tek.  I usually start with WBS and use a MS syringe and then do G2G to an additional 20-30 jars depending on the needs at that time.  I have a pretty good rotating schedule going right now and have around 60-90 jars going at a time.  I usually get yields between 3-5 oz's dry on the first flush and usually get up to 3 flushes and then toss the tub after I harvest the 3rd flush.

Now this all takes up a ton of room and from step 1 to harvest takes around 5-8 weeks.  I am wanting to find a way to either save some space or speed everything up or increase yields.  I have not begun working with agar yet as I do not have my flowhood finished yet.  I am hoping to finish it in the next month or so so I can start working with agar.  Currently I work inside of a fairly large glovebox inside of the plastic room.

I've also considered trying bags rather than jars as they hold more and it would take 1 bag per tub I believe and I think 30-40 bags would take up less space.

Any feedback is appreciated, I know I am not asking many questions yet.  I am mostly looking to have a discussion about all of this to see if it might point me in the right direction of searching for what else is out there to advance my methods.

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Re: Very successful with monotubs, now its time to move on. [Re: ThatKFCguy]
    #17336413 - 12/05/12 02:02 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

just so you know a glovebox works fine for agar!


Isolate some species and put your tubs to work! thats my plan at least with my isolates. all done in a glove box with 5 plates out of 60 contaminating. not bad! also have isolated some mono cultures with three transfers. yet to fruit! maybe this will improve my less than mediocre results from MS.


i would experiment with bags, that is a good idea to conserve space. ive had mixed results with bags as opposed to jars, but am still pretty nooby :cool:

Edited by 11111 (12/05/12 02:03 AM)

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Re: Very successful with monotubs, now its time to move on. [Re: 11111]
    #17336835 - 12/05/12 06:15 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Agar will be a big advantage.

Bags will hold a lot more spawn then you realize. I often do jars G2G to bags.

Larger mono tubs?

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Re: Very successful with mono tubs, now its time to move on. [Re: Aquamon]
    #17336847 - 12/05/12 06:23 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Aquamon said:
Agar will be a big advantage.

Bags will hold a lot more spawn then you realize. I often do jars G2G to bags.

Larger mono tubs?




I do not advise using large mono tubs....you can get the same results using a 3.5inch sub in a smaller tub with the same surface area as opposed to using more sub (6inches) in a container with the same surface area.

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It requires less spawn to make up a monotub.


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Re: Very successful with mono tubs, now its time to move on. [Re: HybridprX]
    #17336895 - 12/05/12 06:49 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

By larger mono tub I was recommending the same substrate depth but larger surface area.

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Re: Very successful with mono tubs, now its time to move on. [Re: Aquamon]
    #17337112 - 12/05/12 08:09 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I found This no pour agar tek is it a good tek to follow for inside a glovebox?

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Re: Very successful with mono tubs, now its time to move on. [Re: ThatKFCguy]
    #17337179 - 12/05/12 08:29 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

That is a good tek to follow. And if you can't get malt extract where you live there are many recipes with materials that are easier to find, I started out by using potato flakes and honey.


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Re: Very successful with monotubs, now its time to move on. [Re: ThatKFCguy]
    #17337477 - 12/05/12 09:55 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Get that flow hood finished asap, you'll be glad you did. Use bags.

You can practically watch a good isolated rhizo grow.

I say forget about monotubs. They are a waste of space. If you build a good climate controlled fruiting chamber you could make beds that are more efficient. If you're serious about production, model your grow like a commercial button mushroom farm.


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