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FinnMcCool
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: elasticaltiger]
#25130852 - 04/11/18 12:45 PM (6 years, 8 days ago) |
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I've got my first 66qt. monotub colonizing right now! So far so good. Won't be long and hopefully I'll have a GT party!!
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a boss [Re: cronicr]
#25245247 - 06/02/18 10:50 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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cronicr said: Normally you would be correct but by having our bottoms holes stuffed tight and tops loose with a fan running air will take the path of least resistance so it will come in the top and be forced out of the bottom
Because it is what it is
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clingerman28
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Re: Making loose polyfill puffballs for your mono [Re: stonesun]
#25641424 - 11/26/18 09:38 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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so I shouldn't covermy monotube with a trash bag?
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themushroomdon
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Re: Making loose polyfill puffballs for your mono [Re: clingerman28]
#25644872 - 11/28/18 12:21 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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captainchr0nic
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a boss [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#25706828 - 12/27/18 10:41 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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How do you get the substrate full of fruits out of the tub?
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slones
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Re: Making loose polyfill puffballs for your mono [Re: Gardens Keeper]
#26435600 - 01/15/20 08:12 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry if I'm missing it, but can we get an answer to how big to drill the holes?
Thank you.
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Re: Making loose polyfill puffballs for your mono [Re: slones]
#26435602 - 01/15/20 08:12 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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1.5 inches
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shroomening
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a boss [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#26823905 - 07/14/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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FrankHorrigan said: This is part of my series on how I get things done. I hope it helps!
I notice a lot of folks never fully dial in their monotubs. This is a pretty simple process. A dialed in monotub does not need to be misted or fanned on the first flush, nor does it need bubble wrap or wax paper or any kind of casing layer. On average, a 66qt monotub with a 3" deep substrate should yield between 6-8oz dry for the first flush (though crap genetics can result in reduced yields)
When your substrate is fully colonized, it is time to fruit. Some people prefer to wait for a few pins, but i find this only adds more aborts to my first flush. My yields are better when fruited at 100% as well.
The key to a successful mono is passive FAE. You want to start by stuffing your polyfill properly.
For the bottom holes on your mono, it's simple: you'll want to stuff them very tightly to keep fresh air flowing in the top and out the bottom. Citric suggested this most excellent idea.
For the top holes, you want very loose polyfill.
Here's a quick pictorial on how I make perfect little puffballs for the top holes of my monos. It allows for good FAE and retains tons of humidity:
Spread a puffball flat on your palm, about a half inch thick at most.
Fold it in half.
Gently roll into a ball that is a bit larger than the hole itself. Use little or no pressure when rolling the ball between your hands. Should end up looking like this:
Gently insert it into the tub, don't stuff it in or anything, just push it through so it's almost falling out.
You will want to run a fan in the room. make sure it is stationary and facing near but not directly at the monotub(s). You do not want to feel any direct wind from the fan itself blowing on your tub(s).
Run the fan on low or medium. A good indicator of good FAE is a line of evaporation running down one or both sides of the tub from the top holes. The rest of the walls should be covered in condensation, except for small rings around the bottom holes.
If the walls dry up during the first flush, adjust your poly in the top holes and make sure your fan is not too close to the tubs. Mist the walls if they've dried up, do not mist the substrate however.
This should give you a great first flush in your monotubs
Here's a few examples of my own personal monotubs I've fruited using this method, these are just coir/verm and gypsum:
Judging by your photos, which are filled with fuzzy feets, don't your mushrooms get too little air? Don't they need more FAE?
And regarding the fact that air is pushed out at the bottom, is not that wrong? I think this video with hot air rising seems more logical.
Confusing everything. Who is right?
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tryptkaloids
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a boss [Re: shroomening]
#26901495 - 08/27/20 12:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's almost impossible to get enough air to a full canopy. They are both right. Heat rises, co2 falls
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bodhisatta
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a boss [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26901607 - 08/27/20 04:55 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Air does path of least resistance. Im thoroughly convinced the bottom holes do nothing to nearly nothing if they're stuffed tighter. Co2 doesn't fall out of air in any normal circumstances youd find in a fruiting chamber
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Abby
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a boss [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#26948267 - 09/21/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks Frank
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Inocuole
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a boss [Re: bodhisatta]
#26950417 - 09/23/20 02:55 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Air does path of least resistance. Im thoroughly convinced the bottom holes do nothing to nearly nothing if they're stuffed tighter. Co2 doesn't fall out of air in any normal circumstances youd find in a fruiting chamber
Still trying to convince people of this huh?
These people think you'll suffocate if you lay on the floor or something, I guess.
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Jman314
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Re: Making loose polyfill puffballs for your mono [Re: PussyFart]
#27534178 - 11/07/21 06:25 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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And you do not need to cover them with a blanket for colonization, light is beneficial to the growth of mycellium during all stages.
So you for real don’t have to keep them in the dark at any phase of life?
Edited by Jman314 (11/08/21 12:51 PM)
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ComfortablyNumb-PF
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Re: Making loose polyfill puffballs for your mono [Re: Jman314]
#27687167 - 03/08/22 08:23 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey all, new and just here and just got the last of my supplies in the mail today so I will be inoculating in the next couple of days.
When I first read this I thought the flow went the opposite way, but if I am understanding this method correctly the air will enter the upper holes (encouraged by the fan) and the heavier CO2 will flow out of the bottom holes. If that is correct, are we packing the lower holes tighter simply to limit the amount of airflow/moisture loss? IE if we had the correct moisture in the air would it be better to allow that air to move faster?
Thanks!
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a boss [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#27713945 - 03/30/22 11:42 AM (2 years, 19 days ago) |
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A couple little updates for 2022
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a boss [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#27714040 - 03/30/22 01:03 PM (2 years, 19 days ago) |
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Thanks for continuing to update this!
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Stromrider
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a boss [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#27714042 - 03/30/22 01:05 PM (2 years, 19 days ago) |
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FrankHorrigan said: A couple little updates for 2022
Yooo what the heck. Who is this guy
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Xtdragon
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: Stromrider]
#27720903 - 04/04/22 01:49 PM (2 years, 14 days ago) |
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Bump
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Deadhead38651
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a boss [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#28128997 - 01/07/23 08:55 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Thank you
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Deadhead38651
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Re: Making loose polyfill puffballs for your mono [Re: PussyFart]
#28129005 - 01/07/23 09:01 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks. Just removed my blanket while colonizing
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