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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Mycena]
    #1827436 - 08/19/03 02:38 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Mycena, would you say that the potency is noticably lacking on a mushroom grown off of a casing of 50/50+ with cracked corn as the lone ingredient of substrate?


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Mycena]
    #1828122 - 08/19/03 06:31 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Mycena, that is all conjecture, and we  have all heard it at least twice before .
that is why we are  anxiously  awaiting  these test  results from the lab . 
don't even think about trying to hyjack anno's thread  :mad:


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: deanofmean]
    #1828862 - 08/19/03 03:26 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Yidakiman - dont know - never grown on Corn - in fact i dont grow on grain anymore - grains just for spawn. Im just stating the published nutritional data which i feel adds to the background and interpretation of whatever anno finds.

Deanofmean -
i think anno would have brought it up himself if he objected to others making a contribution to this discussion. My commenst are not conjecture - they are based on Observation, subjective experience of experienced trippers and publsihed scientific data
This is the second time in 1 day youve put your 2c into a topic ive posted on seriously without actually contributing any point of worth

This IS the advanced Forum. Please Contribute seriously or else go back to mushroom cultivation.


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Anno]
    #1845122 - 08/24/03 06:57 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Short update:
All the jars are colonized and in the fridge by now(of course), but I will be very busy for another 3 weeks, so I will bring them to fruit after the 15th of september.


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Anno]
    #1845144 - 08/24/03 07:16 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

AHHHH the suspense!!!!


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Anno]
    #1845201 - 08/24/03 08:09 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

With all of this waiting and putting cakes in and out of fridges, I wonder now how telling the results will be. I would have preferred a straight grow because now I'll wonder how the refrigeration for 6 weeks straight will have affected the experiment. The good thing is that it's all the same strain isolate, so strain-specific temperature sensitivity will not be an issue.



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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: megaman3]
    #1845210 - 08/24/03 08:14 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

>I would have preferred a straight grow because now I'll wonder how >the refrigeration for 6 weeks straight will have affected the
experiment.

Trust me, me too.
I?ll see how it goes, and if there should be need, I?ll repeat it on a later time.


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    #1845465 - 08/24/03 10:21 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Alien]
    #1845499 - 08/24/03 10:43 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

i'd bet the long delay, even at low temp, will actually increase potency, at least slightly.


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Anno]
    #1846690 - 08/25/03 05:57 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Heheh sounds good Anno. You have more patience than I ever would.


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: TekNut]
    #1859660 - 08/29/03 12:49 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

i just found some info in the www that oats would have a lot more Tryptophan than millet...

http://waltonfeed.com/self/ntr2.html

so why is there no jar with straight oats ?

i came to this idea, cause i thought millet would be translated in my language what in real is oats in english....
so i thought a lot of oats now, they should be "eaten" very good by the mycelium cause of the small surface.....

and i found some german webside which declares wheat (Weizen-) would have most T. :

http://www.vegetarierbund.de/nv/nv_2003_2__Essen_macht_Laune.htm

since now i was growing on straight wheat....i liked it...wondering if should change to millet or oats.....


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Anno]
    #1866824 - 08/31/03 04:56 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

While you are having them anaylized for potency, you should take this opportunity to test the common belief that the cap is more potent than the stem.


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: vader]
    #1869597 - 09/01/03 06:53 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Deanofmean:
'Mycena, that is all conjecture, and we have all heard it at least twice before .
that is why we are anxiously awaiting these test results from the lab .
don't even think about trying to hyjack anno's thread '

That is pretty redudant. Starter has already demonstrated that millet has a higher trytophan content than most other substrates commonly used for cubensis fruiting, and Gartz has already been demonstrated that tryptophan precursors do effect potency = especially when you consider that psilocybin and psilocin represent converted tryptophans (against demonstrated in scientific evaluations). Just because someone is adding a comment that doesnt appeal to your view does not mean they are 'hijacking' anyone's thread.
I dont really think that Anno's house constitutes a 'lab' either (no offence to Anno as for all I know he may have a huge lab in his shed).
I am confident that providing Anno is using a Finch seed that has a high mixture of millet in it, that it will out yield and produce more potent mushrooms than the other substrates - and we all await his results.



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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1872630 - 09/02/03 06:27 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Mycena,
i apologize for the, hyjacking Anno's thread comment .
(dean sometimes gets mean when he drinks).
it is pretty well excepted that millet is superior to rice, wheat, and rye berries for potency .
however this experiment involves a bit more .

if we are going to insert opinions in this thread, here are mine .

quinoa, lentils, and rye grass seed will finish as top contenders .

when yield per gm. of substrate is factored in, i think the results from oats may be surprising .(and rice too!)
when all is said and done, it would be awesome if someone did a bar graph for visual effect .


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: deanofmean]
    #1873858 - 09/02/03 07:53 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

No worries Dean. :smile:


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Mycena]
    #1910803 - 09/13/03 04:30 AM (19 years, 22 days ago)

Anno - If you know of a lab that can do these chromotography tests, I would be willing to contribute financially for a few experiments. First, growing all of the popular strains in whatever this test shows to be the most potent way, then get each one analyzed. Tho the "Which strain is better" question will never be answered, if we knew what strains contained how much of which tryptamines, at least we'd have some sort of objective ruler for them. As I said, I have a few other tests that I'd ilke to see, and if you'd be willing to conduct them and get the product tested, I'd be willing to renumerate you financially for the tests, or a part o them at least.


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: lysergic]
    #1917377 - 09/15/03 11:54 AM (19 years, 20 days ago)

Thank you for the offer, I might come back to that at a later moment.
Right now I?m in the process of casing all those different substrate .jars.


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: Anno]
    #1917701 - 09/15/03 06:06 PM (19 years, 19 days ago)

lysergic, it's quite possible that different substrates would give different results depending on the strain. I think before you do an experiment like you suggest, it would be a good idea to repeat anno's current experiment with a few different diverse strains to see if the results are consistent across strains.

If they are, then your experiment sounds interesting. If not, then it may be possible to determine not only the best substrate, but the best substrate for each strain. Just a thought....


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Re: Multi Substrate Test [Re: mycofile]
    #1923847 - 09/17/03 08:58 AM (19 years, 18 days ago)

mycofile - Excellent! Imagine how nice it would be to live in a country where analysys could be conducted on these little beauties. Just off the top of my head...

Testing each strain on each substrate to see what makes it produce the most..

Testing mycelia to see if it contains psilocybin...

Testing caps or stems, which is the most potent?

What strain(s) contain the most amount of psilocybin when grown in their ideal substrate...

will mixing tryptophan / nutrietn rich poop soup with WBS lead to increased potency?

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