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OfflineCornholio
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Discontent Americans Consider Canada
    #1732753 - 07/20/03 06:05 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

A lot of people on these boards have mentioned (joked about?) fleeing to Canada to get away from our oppresive Government, but it's really starting to happen now:

Associated Press
July 19, 2003
Discontent Americans Consider Canada


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Re: Discontent Americans Consider Canada [Re: Cornholio]
    #1732888 - 07/20/03 06:59 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

it would be nice if instead of fleeing to canada they could just go to another state. too bad state's rights are no more.


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Re: Discontent Americans Consider Canada [Re: ]
    #1732972 - 07/20/03 07:47 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Agreed.  The power is supposed to be with the states.  :frown: 


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Re: Discontent Americans Consider Canada [Re: Cornholio]
    #1732989 - 07/20/03 08:02 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

From the link Cornholio provided:

Quote:

But every year since 1977, more Canadians have emigrated to the United States than vice versa -- the 2001 figures were 5,894 Americans moving north, 30,203 Canadians moving south.




Interesting numbers. Let's do some gradeschool arithmetic and see what we end up with:

31,902,268 (Canada's est. pop. in mid-2002 from FactMonster) divided by 30,203 equals 1056

280,562,489 (US's est. pop. in mid-2002 from FactMonster) divided by 5,894 equals 47,601

47,601 divided by 1056 equals 45.

So -- on a per capita basis -- there are 45 times as many Canucks heading to the US as the reverse. I wonder why that might be?

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Re: Discontent Americans Consider Canada [Re: Phred]
    #1733000 - 07/20/03 08:05 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Job opportunities?


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Re: Discontent Americans Consider Canada [Re: Cornholio]
    #1733032 - 07/20/03 08:19 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I have no desire to move to Canada and am quite happy living where i am. Canada is a nice place to visit but i wouldn't want to live there.


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Re: Discontent Americans Consider Canada [Re: Cornholio]
    #1733051 - 07/20/03 08:27 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

If I can find any career opportunities there, I'm definitely going.


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Re: Discontent Americans Consider Canada [Re: silversoul7]
    #1733064 - 07/20/03 08:33 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Canadians move to america to make money, there are more high paying jobs in the states, and taxes are waaay higher in Canada.

inn- yeah, thats the same with me, but the opposite. Except, America isnt really that nice to visit.

no just kidding. I havent been to the states in 4 years, and the last time I went, I got really sick, but Im gonna check out Seattle this week.


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Re: Discontent Americans Consider Canada [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1733417 - 07/20/03 11:45 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I'm saving up to move there. I expect to be able to move to British Columbia in 2 years.


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Re: Discontent Americans Consider Canada [Re: MOTH]
    #1733474 - 07/21/03 12:08 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I want to live in canada, but get all my money from America.


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Re: Discontent Americans Consider Canada [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1733478 - 07/21/03 12:09 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

A friend of mine lives in Canada and travels across the border daily to work in the States. Not sure how all of that works out, but I'd be happier than a pig in shit if I could pull that off.


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Re: Discontent Americans Consider Canada [Re: Adden]
    #1733547 - 07/21/03 12:32 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I know some nurses have a bus especially for them to do that at the border they go in a special lane with virtually no line.

Pinky- You've probably answered this 100 times but why did you go to the domincan republic and not the U.S?


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Re: Discontent Americans Consider Canada [Re: Cornholio]
    #1733600 - 07/21/03 12:49 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I'd be curious to see what the 2002 and 2003 figures turn out to be. After all, that's when the Bush really started to hit the fan.


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Re: Discontent Americans Consider Canada [Re: EchoVortex]
    #1733721 - 07/21/03 01:45 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

EchoVortex said:
I'd be curious to see what the 2002 and 2003 figures turn out to be. After all, that's when the Bush really started to hit the fan.


Exactly. I struggled to find total emigration figures in order to see how many Americans are choosing to leave the country in total. The only three sites I could find with numbers are:

Escape from America: says 160,000 left in 1984, and 250,000 left in 1994.

The Expatriation Trend: says 250,000 to 300,000 Americans leave the country per year (undated article).

American Emigration: says today's estimate is over 500,000 per year.

I'm surprised that only about 6,000 of those choose to go to Canada. Something doesn't seem right. I read in one article that the US doesn't count emigration for many types of circumstances. For example, they don't count non-US born citizens as "emigrants" (instead those people are "returnees").


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Re: Discontent Americans Consider Canada [Re: Cornholio]
    #1733950 - 07/21/03 03:31 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, those figures seem to be kinda fucked up, 30,000 canadians leaving to america every year? thats a HUGE chunk of the population, I wonder if they included people getting work visas. Just from personal experience, I know one canadian that moved to the US for 4 years and then returned, while I know at least 10 americans who have moved to canada permanently.


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Re: Discontent Americans Consider Canada [Re: Cornholio]
    #1733962 - 07/21/03 03:36 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know if canada's much better..

and besides, the more I read and think about mankind's current state of being, the more I want to stay here and try to snap people out of the dream.


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Re: Discontent Americans Consider Canada [Re: Strumpling]
    #1734798 - 07/21/03 01:56 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

this is an example of ignoring quality for quantity. see, the people coming to america from canada are the nedneck bastids from the great wasteland of central canada, whereas the americans leaving to canada are sacrificing economic concerns for a more morally pleasing environment.

I know some canadians living in the US.... the father flies back to canada then to fucking LYBIA to work for a dictator on his oil fields for 6 months, then drinks, looks at his huge porno collection, and bets on horse races for the other half a year with his six figure income derived from oil money..... while the mother takes a good nursing job just so that the rest of the family can live in the states. fucking interlopers. these are the kinds of canadians coming to the us: the ones without moral scruples.


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Re: Discontent Americans Consider Canada [Re: Cornholio]
    #1734849 - 07/21/03 02:20 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

"For me, it's a no-brainer," said Mollie Ingebrand, a puppeteer from Minneapolis



Oh no! The puppeteers are leaving! We've got to do somthing to stop it!!!


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Re: Discontent Americans Consider Canada [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1734915 - 07/21/03 02:48 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Cut their strings.


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Re: Discontent Americans Consider Canada [Re: Phred]
    #1734929 - 07/21/03 02:52 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

pinksharkmark said:
So -- on a per capita basis -- there are 45 times as many Canucks heading to the US as the reverse. I wonder why that might be?

pinky




Because people are ignorant, and money means more to them than anything else....its sad really.


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