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Offlineagentg
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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: k00laid]
    #17256611 - 11/21/12 02:41 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks a lot !
This tek helped me a lot with the first grow !


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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: agentg]
    #17327247 - 12/03/12 03:13 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Great thread. Book'd for later, more intensive reading.


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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: Forestdie]
    #17327323 - 12/03/12 03:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I'll be using this exact guide in just a few days D: (hopefully). I got the majority of my supplies already (just need flour, gypsum and spores).

Can't wait.


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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: Shroomslip]
    #17432758 - 12/22/12 03:02 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

Can somebody let me know what the ideal substrate ratio is when you're using gypsum? The OP recommends using gypsum but does not include it in the ratio.

Thanks!


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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: Habermas]
    #17432791 - 12/22/12 03:11 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

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Habermas said:
Can somebody let me know what the ideal substrate ratio is when you're using gypsum? The OP recommends using gypsum but does not include it in the ratio.

Thanks!




search around for RR's recommended amount.

just cuz im not sure off the top of my head but i think its like 5% or less


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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: k00laid]
    #17432935 - 12/22/12 03:51 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

1 tablespoon of gypsum for the basic recipe of 1 cup brf, 1 cup water, and 2 cups verm.


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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: tripdawg420]
    #17433715 - 12/22/12 06:37 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: TheHydrogenBomb]
    #17444488 - 12/24/12 11:04 PM (12 years, 25 days ago)

How long can I keep the jars (covered with tape and foil and stored in a tote) after sterilization and before inoculation. I've prepared my jars, but I'm waiting for my LC to mature, should I just wait to sterilize them until I'm ready to inoculate?


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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: Habermas]
    #17445222 - 12/25/12 04:59 AM (12 years, 25 days ago)

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Habermas said:
How long can I keep the jars (covered with tape and foil and stored in a tote) after sterilization and before inoculation. I've prepared my jars, but I'm waiting for my LC to mature, should I just wait to sterilize them until I'm ready to inoculate?




its best to do it all in one fell swoop.

if you have prepared your jars, you must sterilize them.


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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: k00laid]
    #17539235 - 01/12/13 07:02 PM (12 years, 7 days ago)

I can only hope my first attempt will be half as well-executed!


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Reply [Re: Shea25]
    #17943996 - 03/12/13 01:48 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

The guide merely says "Gypsum". Am I looking for Gypsum powder?


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Re: Reply [Re: LTSwoomz]
    #17944048 - 03/12/13 02:03 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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LTSwoomz said:
The guide merely says "Gypsum". Am I looking for Gypsum powder?



Agricultural gypsum from the garden store. It's really cheap.

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Re: Reply [Re: sansa]
    #17946445 - 03/12/13 09:33 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Thank you for your reply =)

Sorry to nitpick, but upon searching agricultural gypsum on google, I was pointed towards usagypsum, where there are several different kinds of agricultural gypsum.

http://www.usagypsum.com/category/1.aspx

Which am I looking for? I suppose to understand the answer I should ask; what purpose does the gypsum serve?

EDIT: Resolved. A little extra searching led me to Gypsum (aka Calcium Sulfate I guess) from Shroomery sponsors. Thanks for your help.


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Re: Reply [Re: LTSwoomz]
    #18027832 - 03/29/13 11:05 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Hey sick tek, I have recently watched these videos on YouTube with the same tek, I have two quick questions so I do not mess up if anyone is still watching this thread.

You say after inoculation do not put any tape or tinfoil over the holes, the You tube video shows the guy putting micron tape or masking tape over the holes, just curious if this is what is being referred to and what difference it will make I bought masking tape to put over the wholes, should I not do this? Wont this allow contaminants in?

Also you say mist a few times a day, If I am using perlite base for my terrarium and soak it in water do I still need to mist or will this keep my little guys hydrated for a couple of weeks?

Thirdly, does it mater if i use a lighter or an oil burner to sterile the syringe in between jars?

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Re: Reply [Re: EarthBounded]
    #18028038 - 03/29/13 12:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Do not cover the holes at all.  The verm layer will protect the colonizing cake.

Do not use verm is place of perlite in a SGFC.  Wet verm does not
breath like wet perlite.  I also imagine that you'd end up with
colonized verm.

A lighter can work fine.  An alcohol lamp can be made with a small
lidded jar and a cotton ball too.

Good luck,

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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: Habermas]
    #18049238 - 04/02/13 09:23 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Habermas said:
How long can I keep the jars (covered with tape and foil and stored in a tote) after sterilization and before inoculation. I've prepared my jars, but I'm waiting for my LC to mature, should I just wait to sterilize them until I'm ready to inoculate?




My first time around I inoculated a dozen jars that I had sterilized a week or two earlier as well as a dozen that I had done just the night before and noticed no difference really, I think the original PF Tek recommends a waiting period in case a contam shows up and you don't waste a spores or spread it to another jar. I don't go to any extreme effort and have only ever lost 3 jars to contam so I don't think it's a concern, especially if you have a PC (which I do not)

I just recently discovered this refining of PF Tek, I've yet to incorporate gypsum, but I plan on inoculating another group of jars in the next week and using it with the same spores to compare. The thirty jars I just inoculated I'll be removing the tape from the holes, never done this before. Question: if GE is so necessary and the dry vermiculite layer so effective couldn't I just remove the lid entirely as long as it was in a clean, draft-free room where the vermiculite layer wouldn't be disturbed? I'm contemplating trying this on a few jars to see how it affects the growth rate, I believe I've gone heavier than ever on the dry verm layer so why not right?


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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: futuredracula]
    #18049595 - 04/02/13 10:33 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

As far as preparing jars and letting them sit around is concerned, I'd wait as little as possible. The longer you wait, the less chance of success.

Futuredracula, try it and see what happens. I've always run under the assumption that the little tiny holes in a PF jar lid limited the infection possibility by reducing entry points to those little holes. The other thing to consider is evaporation though. If you leave the entire lid off, I would predict your entire cake drying out in no time flat. "Why not" is right though, who knows until you try it out?


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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: Shea25]
    #18061010 - 04/05/13 02:31 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Ok. I've been reading and studying for awhile now. I just have a couple questions. Im using cakes and a shotgun fruiting chamber. I got a 15 gallon clear plastic bin. Im using Verm/BRF substrate. My idea is to drill all the holes in the tank as directed. Its cold where I live and I'm setting up in my garage which is around 45 until it warms up soon. Illinois weather. Im going to use an aquarium heater(150W)submerged in a glass bottle of water and sealed. Also a 60 watt blue spectrum light will be on top in a regular light socket and reflective cone and will be on when I'm home. The fish tank heater should not have to be adjusted while the lights on since it will kick off as the light warms, but I'll have to test that before fruiting. I have a $25 digital hydrometer/thermometer hopefully its accurate.. A laptop cooling pad will be attached to the side of bin and on a timer for air circulation. Will the light bulb or fan dry the air too much, or help with humidity? Or will this rig mess up the way the shotgun chamber was designed to work?? Hopefully this will keep the chamber warm enough?? The bin will be inside a wooden chest. There is nt much info on heating your fruiting chamber for cold environments. I need to have fresh air but the fresh air may be too cold for the aquarium heater to keep up with. A temp controlled heat lamp would be too much. A heating blanket is dangerous with the water from the holes in bottom of bin. Any ideas if this set up will be good? Any other suggestions? Thanks!

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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: Ryan11091]
    #18061023 - 04/05/13 02:39 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

a sgfc is desinged to work with natural air currents so no fan, as for your heating the cold air coming in will do nuthing but keep your heater on as it's gonna fight to keep the temps at whatever you set it to.
it's always suggested that you heat the room not the chamber,


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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: cronicr]
    #18061083 - 04/05/13 03:55 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Well the tub sits inside a 1 inch thick cedar chest with lid down so the radiant heat from the tub should be enough to keep the space around the tub warm too. Like a mini heated room. And being that its enclosed there will be no natural air flow will their? So I figured a small air pump with an air wand under the perlite, or a very weak fan would be good.

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