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A Few Noob Questions
    #17309019 - 11/30/12 01:14 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I'm using pint jars for an in vitro grow. How many cc of spore fluid should I inject in each jar? Also about how much is is brown rice flour? And where can I get it? Health food stores? How much is vermiculite? Yah I know noob and annoying questions, but any help?:tee:

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Re: A Few Noob Questions [Re: BotanicalEvolution]
    #17309113 - 11/30/12 01:29 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Get brown rice flower in the health section of your supermarket. Mine was like $7 for a 2lb bag. It's pricey.

Verm is cheap, I get 10L bags at Walmart for like $2.

1cc per jar. Either 0.25cc per holer for 4 holes, or .5cc each for two holes.

Use half pint jars.


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Re: A Few Noob Questions [Re: BotanicalEvolution]
    #17309119 - 11/30/12 01:29 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Verm and Brown Rice Flour are cheap. Probably around $10-$15 for both but depends on how much you buy.

I buy my brown rice flour at the nicer grocery stores. Health food stores will carry it also. Less than $5 I think.

Also, If you're doing PF Tek 1 pint jars are too big. You should use 1/2 pint jars. In 1/2 pint jars I use .5 cc.

You can also buy just a bag of brown rice and grind it yourself. Boom, brown rice flour.


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Re: A Few Noob Questions [Re: idlewild]
    #17309223 - 11/30/12 01:46 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you guys!

And I'm using the invitro tek basically pf tek cut in half. Why would pint jars be a problem?

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Re: A Few Noob Questions [Re: BotanicalEvolution]
    #17309254 - 11/30/12 01:52 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I've read pint jars tend to stall or take much longer to fully colonize, which means more time for contams to set in. There may also be a factor related to fruiting (might not be any more efficient, nor yield more just because it's a larger jar, bigger isnt always better) but I'm not an expert. My experience with half pint jars is just over a month from inoculation to birthing, I wouldn't want to wait longer and risk stalling at 80% after 6 weeks or something. Good luck anyway.

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Re: A Few Noob Questions [Re: T_T]
    #17309282 - 11/30/12 01:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Oh well, I'm not going to buy different jars.

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Re: A Few Noob Questions [Re: BotanicalEvolution]
    #17309478 - 11/30/12 02:29 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

You will almost certainly have contamination if using 1 pint jars, or so I've been told. I can tell you that my 1/2 pint jars are the taller ones, which apparently you're not supposed to use either, and they almost never fully colonize before pins appear and I birth. I would at least get 1/2 pint jars. They don't have to be the shorter ones although they are preferred. You just don't want to wait 4-6 weeks to find them contaminated. I dunno, that's my opinion.


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Re: A Few Noob Questions [Re: idlewild]
    #17309542 - 11/30/12 02:39 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I think I call bullshit on whoever told you that information. Pint jars will most likely work fine if sterilized correctly.

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Re: A Few Noob Questions [Re: idlewild]
    #17309607 - 11/30/12 02:50 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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idlewild said:
You will almost certainly have contamination if using 1 pint jars, or so I've been told. I can tell you that my 1/2 pint jars are the taller ones, which apparently you're not supposed to use either, and they almost never fully colonize before pins appear and I birth. I would at least get 1/2 pint jars. They don't have to be the shorter ones although they are preferred. You just don't want to wait 4-6 weeks to find them contaminated. I dunno, that's my opinion.



Flase, you cannot get a contamination just because the jar is a certain size, makes no sense...

The shorter half pints are recommended because they colonize quicker than the taller ones and don't have moisture problems when fruiting.

The taller jars and pints tend to stall towards the bottom because its easy for them to get compacted, also they tend to pin towards the bottom when fruited because gravity sucks the water content in the taller cakes towards the bottom.

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Re: A Few Noob Questions [Re: PussyFart]
    #17310541 - 11/30/12 05:35 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Flase, you cannot get a contamination just because the jar is a certain size, makes no sense...




It's not because the jar is a certain size, lol. It's because the jar won't fully colonize and when birthed will become much more susceptible to contamination because the myc hasn't completely consolidated the cake. I'm pretty sure I heard that from RR. Either way, I know I've heard pint jars are a bad idea for PF Tek. I'm using the taller 1/2 pint jars and they are never fully colonized when pins start. But I just scrape away parts of the cake that aren't colonized and haven't got a contam yet because of it. Good luck...


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Re: A Few Noob Questions [Re: idlewild]
    #17310549 - 11/30/12 05:37 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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idlewild said:
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Flase, you cannot get a contamination just because the jar is a certain size, makes no sense...




It's not because the jar is a certain size, lol. It's because the jar won't fully colonize and when birthed will become much more susceptible to contamination because the myc hasn't completely consolidated the cake. I'm pretty sure I heard that from RR. Either way, I know I've heard pint jars are a bad idea for PF Tek. I'm using the taller 1/2 pint jars and they are never fully colonized when pins start. But I just scrape away parts of the cake that aren't colonized and haven't got a contam yet because of it. Good luck...




why not get the short ones and have em colonized faster and properly where you dont have to scrape off parts of your cake.

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Re: A Few Noob Questions [Re: twistedty]
    #17326106 - 12/03/12 11:18 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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why not get the short ones and have em colonized faster and properly where you dont have to scrape off parts of your cake.




Because I decided to do PF Tek only a few times before moving to another tek. Buying the shorter jars didn't make sense if I was only going to do them a few times.

But if I do PF Tek again I will get the shorter ones. The taller ones just don't work that well...


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