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PussyFart
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Re: My best project yet [Re: Icesyn]
#17326727 - 12/03/12 01:30 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icesyn said:
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Notahacker420 said: But FAE is a main trigger...The bag shrinks with the substrate eliminating the FAE and u get no side pins, but we know mycellium uses light for energy...so how are you confused?
I still can't find any logical reason to use a clear liner other than an easy clean up.
Like, if you're using a clear tub why would you use a clear liner? Is there any sense in that?
How would a clear liner be easier to clean up than a black one? It's just color.
If ur using a clear tub but using a black liner, the sides of the substrate cannot get any light, but if u don't tape the sides and u use a clear liner, the sides of the substrate can absorb energy from the light(that it wouldn't get with the bottom of the tub taped or a black liner).
The substrate will pull the liner with it as it consolidates and it will eliminate the microclimate between the sub and tub walls that lead to side pinning.
I'm not sure how else to explain it.
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Edited by PussyFart (12/03/12 01:31 PM)
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toxetel
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Re: My best project yet [Re: Icesyn]
#17326736 - 12/03/12 01:33 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icesyn said: I still can't find any logical reason to use a clear liner other than an easy clean up.
Really?
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Notahacker420 said: The bag shrinks with the substrate eliminating the FAE and u get no side pins
The bag shrinks with the substrate eliminating the FAE and u get no side pins.
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Sillyputty67

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Re: My best project yet [Re: toxetel]
#17326760 - 12/03/12 01:39 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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He is saying that when you use no liner the sub will shrink and side pin. If you do use a liner, the liner will take up the slack. Its perfectly logical. If you use a black liner beneficial light cant get through. So clear is preffered, but ime not required.
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Edited by Sillyputty67 (12/03/12 01:43 PM)
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Icesyn
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There's the answer I was looking for. Thanks.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: My best project yet [Re: Icesyn]
#17326851 - 12/03/12 02:01 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I tape my sides to block light but I don't use a liner. Too much hassle. I run my substrates through two flushes a piece and then toss them to make room for the next substrates to be spawned. So side pins don't bother me much. The first harvest never has many and when I harvest the second, I'm free to rip the substrate to pieces if I need to, because it's going to the compost after that anyhow 
Thanks for all the support guys, I'll post some more pics when I can!
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trippinballs420
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holy fuck man, youve got supplies, space, knowledge, and experience i hope to have at some point in my life
you just all over my set up of a handful of pf jars
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Sillyputty67

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So have any of you toyed with the notion of setting up a worm composter for your spent sub?
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FrankHorrigan
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trippinballs420 said:

holy fuck man, youve got supplies, space, knowledge, and experience i hope to have at some point in my life
you just all over my set up of a handful of pf jars 
I spent a whole lot of time fucking around, messing up, and getting in touch with all sorts of contams...that's the story of my life I think 
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malicom said: So have any of you toyed with the notion of setting up a worm composter for your spent sub?
I haven't. Is it as simple as it sounds? Tell me more.
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Sillyputty67

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Well i guess you just get a vermiposting bin. They sell them. Or you can make one out of some styrofoam coolers with holes poked in the bottom. Then you order some redworms. you just put the bin full of new spent sub on top, and the worms move up through the tower of bins. You remove the bottom one to find fresh worm castings.
This is what ive read, but have yet to get it rolling. You can vermipost all your spent sub, yard trimmings, newspapers etc... Then use it in place of manure for Poo loving species.
Thats the idea. Apparently no smell. I wanna get this rolling in my basement.
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Sillyputty67

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Forgot to mention you want a drip tray/bin on the bottom to catch the "worm tea". Which is supposed to be super concentrated nutes for plants or shrooms.
Someone on here... I think it was Tmethyl mentioned dunking a trich infected cake in worm tea, and it killed the trich.
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Edited by Sillyputty67 (12/03/12 02:38 PM)
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twistedty
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Re: My best project yet [Re: Tmethyl]
#17327051 - 12/03/12 02:38 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tmethyl said: And I thought I was out of hand with my 7 monotubs. 
I am impressed that is one sexy shot.
no doubt i have 8 and thought that was too many also
great job frank
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FunnyFungi
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Re: My best project yet [Re: twistedty]
#17328282 - 12/03/12 06:06 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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You're looking at several dry pounds right there 
Be safe dude
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Amphibolos
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Re: My best project yet [Re: PussyFart]
#17328349 - 12/03/12 06:17 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Something trouble me here, since when mushrooms are photosynthetic organisms?
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Tmethyl
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Amphibolos said: Something trouble me here, since when mushrooms are photosynthetic organisms?
Fungi do not use photosynthesis, but they do gather energy from light, especially light sufficient in blue spectrum. The mechanic(s) fungi are employing to use the light are not fully understood and currently under study. We do know, however, they they DO use light all the way from colonization to fruiting.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: My best project yet [Re: Icesyn]
#17328376 - 12/03/12 06:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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FrankHorrigan said: We do love our shiitakes around here 
I am extra safe with shiitakes 
Also, mali, the compost bin is something I will look into. Sounds great for the gardens in the spring
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TheBoomking
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Hey Timethyl can you post a link to the thread malicoms talking about, where your dunked a caked covered in trich in "worm tea" and it killed it!
The whole idea of worm composter bins is really cool I wanna look into it
your a boss frank!
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