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Stronger than LSD and legal
    #1732284 - 07/20/03 02:44 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/102288p-92551c.html

Stronger than LSD and legal



By RICHARD T. PIENCIAK
DAILY NEWS SENIOR CORRESPONDENT


The Drug Enforcement Administration has issued a nationwide alert about a legal hallucinogenic herb from Mexico that is more intense than LSD and can cause debilitating, out-of-body visionary trances.

"There has been a recent interest among young adults and adolescents to rediscover ethnobotanical plants that can induce changes in perception, hallucinations or other psychologically induced changes," the DEA says in a bulletin titled "Drugs and Chemicals of Concern."

Salvia divinorum, popularly known as diviner's mint, is most powerful when smoked, but it also can be chewed or taken orally in an extract version. It is one of about 1,000 members of a species that also includes common garden plants.

At the highest intensity of use, one loses consciousness or "at least is unable to later recall what one has experienced," according to the Web site Salvia divinorum Frequently Asked Questions.

"The individual may fall, or remain immobile or thrash around," the site says. "Somnambulistic behavior may occur; injuries can be sustained without pain being felt."

Salvia is best taken in the presence of a sitter, according to the Sagewisdom Web site, because taking a high dose can "cause you to lose awareness of your physical environment, freak out or become delusional."

"We're looking at it," said John Gilbride, associate special agent in charge of the DEA's New York field office.

"The DEA at the national level is tracking this to determine if this will become a growing trend as a drug of abuse," Gilbride said.

The intelligence gathering process - which includes DEA agents and members of the NYPD - is being complemented by state police members of the DEA's Drug Enforcement Task Force, Gilbride added.

Daniel Siebert of Malibu, Calif.,42, a botanist who created the Salvia divinorum Research and Information Center, said tests in mice show that the herb is "not very toxic." He said a human user would likely pass out before being able to take a lethal overdose.

Siebert said that because excessive use can lead to "very unpleasant consequences - panic, injuries, fires, falls and severe social humiliation" - such overuse is not likely to be repeated.

He sells Salvia online, but, he said, only to those 18 and older. He said he also believes that the herb should not be made illegal.

A 25-gram bag can be bought for $10, 100 grams for $35. Smoking as little as one-quarter of a gram can alter perception and senses.

The DEA's national warning about the herb, which is part of the larger family of sage plants, said that in addition to widespread Internet sales, salvia can be purchased at head and smoke shops in New York, Los Angeles and other large cities.

But last week, a Daily News reporter was unable to buy the substance at any of 12 stores in Greenwich Village.

One DEA official said investigators were having a difficult time tracking the level of sales because of the widespread use of the Internet.

Attempts to make Salvia divinorum and its active ingredients illegal under the Controlled Substances Act have been unsuccessful.

Originally published on July 19, 2003



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Re: Stronger than LSD and legal [Re: motaman]
    #1732491 - 07/20/03 04:12 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Ever heard those bastards touch on the dangers of AMERICAN NATIVE DATURA? I've seen the crap growing around texas as long as I can remember, but nooo... they're only intrested in the nation's "growing drug problem" Its growing cause its safe and NOT a serious social problem, jackasses.


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Re: Stronger than LSD and legal [Re: motaman]
    #1732573 - 07/20/03 04:54 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Jesus! What the hell does, "Stronger than LSD," mean?

Pentobarbital (Euthanyl?) is much stronger, as it can put you in a coma and/or kill you. I just have a hard time trying to figure out what these bastards mean sometimes. My patented Hype-Meter? is in the red on this one... :crazy:

*The Hype-Meter? (US Patent 6,123,456) is a registered trademark of Papaver Industries LTD, which is a wholly owned subsidiary of Papaver Holdings International, LLC.


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Re: Stronger than LSD and legal [Re: Papaver]
    #1732679 - 07/20/03 05:38 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Salvia is the strongest naturally occurring psychoactive, but LSD is actually a bit more effective regarding the micrograms necessary to elicit noticeable psychoactive effects, as best as I understand it.
I'm thinking that one may want to place orders in the near future as I can see salvia being scheduled in the not too distant future.


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Re: Stronger than LSD and legal [Re: Papaver]
    #1732684 - 07/20/03 05:40 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

"A 25-gram bag can be bought for $10, 100 grams for $35. Smoking as little as one-quarter of a gram can alter perception and senses."

I don't know where they got that info, not off of sagewisdom.com, those are prices for what is probably poor quality shit.


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    #1734481 - 07/21/03 11:33 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Stronger than LSD and legal [Re: matts]
    #1734739 - 07/21/03 01:32 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

sounds a lot like getting very drunk on alcohol... which is legal


He he, yeah right?!!? Of course, you don't want to keep hammering down bowls of salvia like beers at a bar, it's over pretty quickly, and you'll never do it while driving.


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Re: Stronger than LSD and legal [Re: motaman]
    #1757532 - 07/28/03 10:46 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quick, Quick all the newspapers. Jump on the bandwagon as long as we can. Lets spread the word to the children.
HEADLINE: LEAGLE/GETS YOU HIGH! get it while its hot


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