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In vitro Neglect Tek, first time
#17322195 - 12/02/12 05:58 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Out of impulse, I knocked up 11 jars of brf with cubensis spores and they all are fully colonized and some fruited in vitro and I dont have any money for a sgfc or perlite or anything. The yeilds havent been to great but I think its the strain (Malabar) .. any cheap ways to increase humidity or yeild.. thanks.. ill post pics later
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Eminem]
#17322256 - 12/02/12 06:10 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Build a SGFC...it costs like $8 for a tub and maybe $20 in perlite.
The small yields are due to the fact that you are not providing the proper conditions.
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THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT!
A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: PussyFart]
#17322394 - 12/02/12 06:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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$20 for perlite for one tub? Where are you buying it from?
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
#17322439 - 12/02/12 06:37 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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All my cakes are spent, is that okay to now mix them all in one tub? Does dry verm greatly inprove results? Can I dunk and set or should I get verm aswell? Thanks
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PussyFart
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
#17322442 - 12/02/12 06:37 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Trippy_Smurf said: $20 for perlite for one tub? Where are you buying it from?
That was just a ball park estimate...Home depot....8 quart bags $4...i bought a lot when I first started..didn't know any better.
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100355951/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=perlite&storeId=10051#.ULwCRoN1FI4
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A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Edited by PussyFart (12/02/12 06:37 PM)
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Eminem]
#17322456 - 12/02/12 06:39 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Eminem said: All my cakes are spent, is that okay to now mix them all in one tub? Does dry verm greatly inprove results? Can I dunk and set or should I get verm aswell? Thanks
Spent cakes are spent...
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A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
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EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: PussyFart]
#17322485 - 12/02/12 06:43 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can I eyeball the holes or is using a ruler and a sharpie much more effective due to accuracy.. I dont even have a ruler or sharpie lol.. Just trying to do this with the least amount of supplies until I start my next batch and do it right next time.
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Eminem]
#17322510 - 12/02/12 06:47 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Terrarium-Tek
Eyeballing them is fine, just as long as you have a good eye...read the page and watch the video first.
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A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Eminem]
#17322512 - 12/02/12 06:48 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Eminem said: Can I eyeball the holes or is using a ruler and a sharpie much more effective due to accuracy.. I dont even have a ruler or sharpie lol.. Just trying to do this with the least amount of supplies until I start my next batch and do it right next time.
i just drill away
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: twistedty]
#17322527 - 12/02/12 06:50 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anyone ever screw up a sfgc and never got fruits? I dont even have an rh reader. I seen the videos I think ill try that.. I just dont want to much fae or to little humidity.. paranoia I guess..
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Eminem]
#17322536 - 12/02/12 06:51 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Eminem said: Anyone ever screw up a sfgc and never got fruits? I dont even have an rh reader. I seen the videos I think ill try that.. I just dont want to much fae or to little humidity.. paranoia I guess..
If a SGFC is built properly, it will have the perfect RH for cubes. No hygrometer needed.
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A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Edited by PussyFart (12/02/12 06:51 PM)
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: PussyFart]
#17322578 - 12/02/12 06:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks, ruler and sharpie is worth it then. I read misting the sides only and also glisten actual cake but not pins once pinning starts. Which one is true? Or both is true? Thanks.. is 6-10 layers of perlite anymore beneficial than the recommended 3-5 layers?
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: PussyFart]
#17322596 - 12/02/12 06:58 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Notahacker420 said:
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Eminem said: All my cakes are spent, is that okay to now mix them all in one tub? Does dry verm greatly inprove results? Can I dunk and set or should I get verm aswell? Thanks
Spent cakes are spent...
Either throw them out or bury them in your yard.
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Eminem]
#17322614 - 12/02/12 07:01 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Eminem said: Thanks, ruler and sharpie is worth it then. I read misting the sides only and also glisten actual cake but not pins once pinning starts. Which one is true? Or both is true? Thanks.. is 6-10 layers of perlite anymore beneficial than the recommended 3-5 layers?
Don't mist the sides of your tub, they will not grow.
Mist the cakes directly with a fine mist, then fan out the chamber to make room for evaporation.
Main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and Evaporation off of the substrate.
Light is a secondary pinning trigger. For tropical species temperature is not a pinning factor.
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SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
#17322617 - 12/02/12 07:02 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Spent means they've run out of nutrients and will no longer fruit? I thought it meant it has pinned at some point.. like its spent...not cashed..lol.. im sure I can get more flushes out of all of them.
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Eminem]
#17322633 - 12/02/12 07:04 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Great thanks perfect.. I gotta wait till friday.. unless someone can mail me a sgfc haha thx guys ill still keep u all updated and ill post pics
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Eminem]
#17322646 - 12/02/12 07:06 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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One more question for now.. it says 3-5 days from pin to mature but what it after 3 days its grown but still small, could cakes fruit shrooms that take 1 week to grow fully or do all shrooms stop growing regardless of size like on day 5?
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Eminem]
#17322991 - 12/02/12 08:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bump
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Eminem]
#17323016 - 12/02/12 08:10 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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SURE!!
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ROGERRABBIT: P cubensis will grow on stuffed animals, bibles, quarter pounds of weed, bras, etc.
In other words,it's hard to fuck up a cube grow.
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Eminem]
#17323024 - 12/02/12 08:12 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Don't bump your own threads if it's been less than 24 hours.
Fruits take any number of days to grow. Just pick them as soon as the veil starts to tear.
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
#17323658 - 12/02/12 09:53 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Look into alt7 or MexA. No fruiting needed you can grow stones invitro and harvest whenever
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: iwannabemro]
#17324570 - 12/03/12 01:17 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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^ I heard of doing that, scelorita or whatever its called.. Doesnt it take a long time? Contam risk alot higher? thanks
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Eminem]
#17324781 - 12/03/12 02:47 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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No reason contam risk should be any higher.
Anecdotally, optimal yields are achieved 2-3 months after inoculation but acceptable yields may be achieved after 8 weeks, IIRC.
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Fischer]
#17333373 - 12/04/12 03:21 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wish I had some perlite absolutely no money till friday..
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: PussyFart]
#17333849 - 12/04/12 04:45 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
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Eminem said: Anyone ever screw up a sfgc and never got fruits? I dont even have an rh reader. I seen the videos I think ill try that.. I just dont want to much fae or to little humidity.. paranoia I guess..
If a SGFC is built properly, it will have the perfect RH for cubes. No hygrometer needed.
IF the RH where you live is above 30%*
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Wimy]
#17335261 - 12/04/12 08:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wimy said:
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Notahacker420 said:
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Eminem said: Anyone ever screw up a sfgc and never got fruits? I dont even have an rh reader. I seen the videos I think ill try that.. I just dont want to much fae or to little humidity.. paranoia I guess..
If a SGFC is built properly, it will have the perfect RH for cubes. No hygrometer needed.
IF the RH where you live is above 30%*
Yes even if rh is below 30%, just need to wet your perlite every 5-7 days cause it drys out faster.
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: iwannabemro]
#17336637 - 12/05/12 04:15 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Eminem]
#17336643 - 12/05/12 04:17 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oops didnt mean to upload one pic twice, had a pic of a fatter shroom in one of the jars.. ill upload l8er.. o well.
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Eminem]
#17338172 - 12/05/12 12:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I got perlite and im gonna use bottles.. ill post pics
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
#17338228 - 12/05/12 12:20 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Trippy_Smurf said: $20 for perlite for one tub? Where are you buying it from?
I can only find the small miracle grow bags of perlite around here, which means it gets expensive (8 dollars for my tub and 20 for my perlite is actually pretty much exactly what I spent). I shoulda ordered it like the Verm and flour and stuff since I can't really get any of this shit in my town, but I figured Home Depot or something would have what I need.
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Shroomslip]
#17338434 - 12/05/12 01:00 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah I just got my perlite at home depot for under $5 w/ tax..
Lol no spray bottle can I just get the top of the bottle wet not actually spray
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Eminem]
#17338484 - 12/05/12 01:08 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can get spray bottles at almost any home improvement store or dollar store.
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
#17338709 - 12/05/12 01:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I seen em but they only spray not mist.. like a line of water. I think ill use a windex bottle but will it damage anything? I dont have verm either
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Re: In vitro Neglect Tek, first time [Re: Eminem]
#17339076 - 12/05/12 03:16 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you get the kind with the twist nozzle, you can adjust it down to a mist.
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