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Re: Ultrasonic Humidifier setup question [Re: daha]
    #17320684 - 12/02/12 01:19 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

K.I.S.S.

Keep. It. Simple. Stupid....

SGFC is great for beginners... Un-altered


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Re: Ultrasonic Humidifier setup question [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #17320704 - 12/02/12 01:23 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

How long can I leave the sgfc unattended?

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Re: Ultrasonic Humidifier setup question [Re: daha]
    #17320718 - 12/02/12 01:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

12-14 hours.... Easily IME.


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Re: Ultrasonic Humidifier setup question [Re: daha]
    #17320726 - 12/02/12 01:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

KISS is a relative phrase. It depends on your level of technical ability. for me this is exceedingly simple.


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Re: Ultrasonic Humidifier setup question [Re: Sillyputty67]
    #17320745 - 12/02/12 01:29 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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malicom said:
KISS is a relative phrase. It depends on your level of technical ability. for me this is exceedingly simple.




My bad O.G.

But no really for beginners that are NEW to the hobby. They should
stick with what works before venturing off.
No one wants to answer or help someone that has some major fucking
ghetto rigged unnecessary Fruiting Chamber..
When they haven't even so much grown a single fruit.


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Re: Ultrasonic Humidifier setup question [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #17320757 - 12/02/12 01:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Im just playing. lol

The other notion im toying with is putting isopropanol into the sonic mister resevoir to sterilize the inside of the chamber. Then use the fan to evac the vapor as it evaporates. But there is a fire hazzard here, but I like to play the mad scientist role. lol


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Re: Ultrasonic Humidifier setup question [Re: Sillyputty67]
    #17320796 - 12/02/12 01:40 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I've also heard the shotgun method is more prone to contam. I know my setup probably looks pretty ghetto to most of you, but is it really unlikely to work, even if I get an analog hydrometer? I was trying to go with what works by following the pf tek which seemed to have a pretty good reputation. This was the way they said a beginner was pretty much guaranteed to bear fruit. I set it up exactly the way the guide said, and I did put a little bit of money and work into this setup, but I guess if there's a strong feeling it won't work at all, I guess it would be better to trash it.

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Re: Ultrasonic Humidifier setup question [Re: daha]
    #17320807 - 12/02/12 01:42 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

SGFC is not more likely to contam. Fully colonized substrate is contam resistant.


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Re: Ultrasonic Humidifier setup question [Re: daha]
    #17320821 - 12/02/12 01:44 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

SGFC is prone to contaminate??
I have NO idea where you heard that.
Fully colonized substrates are near 100%
contaminant resistant. The Fruiting Chamber
is not a Sterile environment, nor is it
suppose to be.

A properly build SGFC needs no Hygrometer.

Venturing off and and tinkering is always fun.
But you should really start with what we all know
works. Then after some experience experiment


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Re: Ultrasonic Humidifier setup question [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #17320825 - 12/02/12 01:45 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Not to mention there's no easy answer, dealing with unknown CFMs, unknown amounts of water, cheap 15 minute timers, etc.

Lots of people have played around with ultrasonics. I've used them successfully and it was fun to play around with, but for the amount of work, even nearing full automation, it doesn't make a lot of sense. But if people want to use them, it's on them to figure out how it's best done.

A grow can be good with or without a humidifier, even in spite of one, but when I see people leaving the holes out to keep the humidity in I see bad grow conditions. Another common mistake is to run them way too long. If the grower doesn't have or feel like springing for a variable repeat cycle timer the next best thing would be to manually use the humidifier, which to my mind is better than the average spray bottle, but doesn't really save any work.


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Re: Ultrasonic Humidifier setup question [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #17320893 - 12/02/12 01:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

DynGBreeD said:
SGFC is prone to contaminate??
I have NO idea where you heard that.
Fully colonized substrates are near 100%
contaminant resistant. The Fruiting Chamber
is not a Sterile environment, nor is it
suppose to be.

A properly build SGFC needs no Hygrometer.

Venturing off and and tinkering is always fun.
But you should really start with what we all know
works. Then after some experience experiment




This is good advice. I have pets and am a brewer. My house is saturated with various microorganisms. Ive seen people on here having weakened cakes that succomb to tric etc... I like the idea that I can make a relatively sterile environment if possible. I cannot fathom any reason having a sanitary enclosure would be nonbeneficial. Ive heard that the best ecosystems are the most diverse, and my house fits that category. Unfortunately my mycology needs some extra shielding.


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Re: Ultrasonic Humidifier setup question [Re: Rahz]
    #17320941 - 12/02/12 02:02 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I guess I was mostly looking for hydrometer recommendations at this point, just to check to see if the setup that I already made works or not. It seems to be working exactly as the tek said it would. I was really expecting someone to be familiar with this setup using the bottles to prevent oversaturation who could tell me what they used to verify that its working. I've heard alot of hydrometers can be inaccurate, I want to try to make sure I get a decent one.

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Re: Ultrasonic Humidifier setup question [Re: daha]
    #17320951 - 12/02/12 02:04 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Find a Cigar or Tobacco Shop... Their Hygrometer's are great.
This is where I purchase my Pipe Tobacco. They have a Few good
ones.

HERE


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Re: Ultrasonic Humidifier setup question [Re: daha]
    #17321432 - 12/02/12 03:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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daha said:
fair enough Cubes. also thx for the pix Malicom. very helpful. Do you think I should throw the 3rd bottle on again?




:huxleyfacepalm:

you guys are making this alot harder than it needs to be


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