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First Monotub- Ready to fruit?
#17320686 - 12/02/12 01:20 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is 5 quarts of WBS spawned to 3/4 brick of coir.
I can't remember when tho
Is this what I'm looking for?
Thanks!
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If you are not planning on adding a casing layer then yup it is ready to fruit.
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Re: First Monotub- Ready to fruit? [Re: budmanman]
#17321014 - 12/02/12 02:15 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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budmanman said: If you are not planning on adding a casing layer then yup it is ready to fruit.
No casing, just going to put in the polyfil!
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I wait til I see a few pins in the center. I get better pinsets this way  Looks good though
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ya wait until there are some pins! like a few/bunch of small half inchers
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Re: First Monotub- Ready to fruit? [Re: 11111]
#17327171 - 12/03/12 03:00 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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i fruited yesterday
should i do the wax paper thing?
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I've never found much use for wax paper, my tubs always give great pinsets...if you have your FAE/RH dialed in, you shouldn't need it.
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FrankHorrigan said: I've never found much use for wax paper, my tubs always give great pinsets...if you have your FAE/RH dialed in, you shouldn't need it.
It is MS agar to wbs to straight coir. I have 2 FAE holes on each long side. I mist and fan 2 times. I have my fan running in my room 24/7
is that cool?
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I wait for about a dozen pins to arrive before polyfill. When I initiate too early, it tends to dry out substrate and you'll end up waiting the same amount of time for it to do its thing with vents open or closed
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I run a fan facing away from my tubs, on low. It blows the air around pretty good. It shouldn't be too drafty though. The key is the polyfill. After much, much experimenting, this is what I settled on: I take a piece of the polyfill and gently spread it out so it's about the size of my hand and spread pretty thin. Maybe a half inch thick and pulled apart so as not to be very dense at all. Then I fold that in half, and loosely roll my hands over it like I'm shaping clay into a ball. I barely use any pressure. This will create a nice golf-ball sized puffball, very loose but thick enough to retain humidity. I find this works great for my set up. You'll need to watch the moisture on the sides of the tub to see. If it dries up on the sides, you should mist the sides and stuff the poly tighter/turn the fan down. If there is no evaporation at least around the stuffed holes after a day or two, you'll need to loosen the poly/increase the airflow/fan every now and again. Hope this helps!
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Re: First Monotub- Ready to fruit? [Re: elkart]
#17327625 - 12/03/12 04:16 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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elkart said: I wait for about a dozen pins to arrive before polyfill. When I initiate too early, it tends to dry out substrate and you'll end up waiting the same amount of time for it to do its thing with vents open or closed
well, live and u learn.
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DOC's HYBRID MONO TUBS are NOT ideal for a room with a fan blowing 24/7. But, a TL MONO TUB does fine!
AND WALK IN CLOSETS ONLY WORK FOR COLONIZATION AND STORAGE
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FrankHorrigan said: If there is no evaporation at least around the stuffed holes after a day or two, you'll need to loosen the poly/increase the airflow/fan every now and again. Hope this helps!

How big are your holes, and how big of a ring of dryness is optimal for u frank...i found that with my 2" holes, a 1cm ring of dryness around the polyfill is about right for my tubs.
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Generally monotubs have about 4 holes on each side 2 being at sub level and 2 closer to the lid of the tub. I don't think two holes will suffice for your grow. Monotubs provide their own humidity so opening the lid is not something you want to do until ready to harvest. Also the holes closer to sub level should be packed tighter (if using polyfill) than the holes closer to the lid which should be packed kind of loose.
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FrankHorrigan said: If there is no evaporation at least around the stuffed holes after a day or two, you'll need to loosen the poly/increase the airflow/fan every now and again. Hope this helps!

How big are your holes, and how big of a ring of dryness is optimal for u frank...i found that with my 2" holes, a 1cm ring of dryness around the polyfill is about right for my tubs.
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TheApprentice said: It is MS agar to wbs to straight coir. I have 2 FAE holes on each long side. I mist and fan 2 times. I have my fan running in my room 24/7. is that cool?
You have one hole near the handles on the short sides, yeah?
You might have to adjust the 24/7 fan, your misting, or your fanning. Each grower's situation is different, but it sounds like you are on the right track. Monotubs are pretty easy. 
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Re: First Monotub- Ready to fruit? [Re: PussyFart]
#17328394 - 12/03/12 06:25 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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FrankHorrigan said: If there is no evaporation at least around the stuffed holes after a day or two, you'll need to loosen the poly/increase the airflow/fan every now and again. Hope this helps!

How big are your holes, and how big of a ring of dryness is optimal for u frank...i found that with my 2" holes, a 1cm ring of dryness around the polyfill is about right for my tubs.
I use 1.5" holes myself, and I get about a half an inch of dry around each of the bottom holes. Usually one or both top holes will have the same as well, but sometimes there will be a line of evaporation running down to the substrate level which is fine for me as well.
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Notahacker420 said:
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FrankHorrigan said: If there is no evaporation at least around the stuffed holes after a day or two, you'll need to loosen the poly/increase the airflow/fan every now and again. Hope this helps!

How big are your holes, and how big of a ring of dryness is optimal for u frank...i found that with my 2" holes, a 1cm ring of dryness around the polyfill is about right for my tubs.
I use 1.5" holes myself, and I get about a half an inch of dry around each of the bottom holes. Usually one or both top holes will have the same as well, but sometimes there will be a line of evaporation running down to the substrate level which is fine for me as well.
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Excellent advice! I'm taking notes
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Re: First Monotub- Ready to fruit? [Re: delta1]
#17328894 - 12/03/12 07:52 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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IME duct tape around the outside will not stop the side pins. Only a black trash bag solved my problems, because it shrinks with the substrate and eliminates any microclimate
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I grew very successfully in a small closet, fan below pointing up at mono stacks
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Re: First Monotub- Ready to fruit? [Re: elkart]
#17330026 - 12/03/12 10:53 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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elkart said: I wait for about a dozen pins to arrive before polyfill. When I initiate too early, it tends to dry out substrate and you'll end up waiting the same amount of time for it to do its thing with vents open or closed
No need for a casing layer yet this is happening.
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Re: First Monotub- Ready to fruit? [Re: budmanman]
#17330141 - 12/03/12 11:18 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Assuming cubes, saying there is no need for a casing layer is correct. You don't need one. You can create the conditions 'needed' without one. For a particular set-up you might want one in order to gives your fruits better conditions though.
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Re: First Monotub- Ready to fruit? [Re: OmegaMachine]
#17331166 - 12/04/12 06:27 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I like to wait until its just gasping for O2... wasn't it TL that said opening 2 top vents by packing them tight with poly, just enough to let some c02 out, he said was very beneficial in his experience. I think genetics plays one of the biggest roles
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Re: First Monotub- Ready to fruit? [Re: elkart]
#17331547 - 12/04/12 09:01 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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i have no idea what size my holes are. i just cut them. its all experiments 
thank you all for the replies.
will update for sure!
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Re: First Monotub- Ready to fruit? [Re: elkart]
#17331624 - 12/04/12 09:25 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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elkart said: I grew very successfully in a small closet, fan below pointing up at mono stacks
thats all i have acloset with a long tube light on the bk wall And a few shelfs works fine for me no fan on plus the monos i have done (not many) I have 2 holes each side 2 inch above sub and one on each of the over sides 2 inxh from the top coverd with tvek
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Re: First Monotub- Ready to fruit? [Re: karlgray]
#17331630 - 12/04/12 09:27 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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TheApprentice said: It is MS agar to wbs to straight coir. I have 2 FAE holes on each long side. I mist and fan 2 times. I have my fan running in my room 24/7. is that cool?
You have one hole near the handles on the short sides, yeah?
You might have to adjust the 24/7 fan, your misting, or your fanning. Each grower's situation is different, but it sounds like you are on the right track. Monotubs are pretty easy. 

my mini monos didnt work so well in there. but i didnt have a fan.
will look into it. cuz i have a ton of space in my walk-in
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A little more in-depth polyfill stuffs, finally got some picture space 
Spread a puffball flat on your palm, about a half inch thick at most.

Fold it in half.

Gently roll into a ball that is a bit larger than the hole itself. Use little or no pressure when rolling the ball between your hands. Should end up looking like this:

Gently insert it into the tub, don't stuff it in or anything, just push it through so it's almost falling out. A couple days after fruiting is initiated, my tubs look like this:
Bottom holes: (long sides)

Top holes (short sides)

I would cut a couple top holes, one in the center of your short sides, as close to the handle as possible.
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ya, i've just been grabbing it out of the bag and stuffing it lol. thankx for the detailed post!
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 If you cut some top holes and stuff all of the holes like that, you should be able to mess with your fan speed/placement in order to set-n-forget for the first flush (which really gives some beautiful, effortless flushes).
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FrankHorrigan said:
 If you cut some top holes and stuff all of the holes like that, you should be able to mess with your fan speed/placement in order to set-n-forget for the first flush (which really gives some beautiful, effortless flushes).
just bought 2 more tubs today. cutting holes right now.
Thanks for the advice!
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