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bia
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Too dry or too wet? SGFC BRF problems
#17320474 - 12/02/12 12:41 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I really don't know what are problems of my sgcf .... at first it thought it was too low humidity witch i tried to resolve by more misting which resulted in nicer pins but also into black spot... and still my mushrooms crackup while being completely wet o.o here are some scary pics
some of the problematic symptoms: cracked/warted/deformed caps, short/thin stems sometimes fuzzy at bottom, stems are mostly cracked or deformed and mushrooms mature too early

Edited by bia (12/02/12 12:45 PM)
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Re: Too dry or too wet? SGFC BRF problems [Re: bia] 1
#17320560 - 12/02/12 12:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think you need more Fresh Air Exchange....
The fuzziness on the base of some of your mushrooms I believe is a symptom of stale air...
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bia
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Re: Too dry or too wet? SGFC BRF problems [Re: BEETHOVEN]
#17320614 - 12/02/12 01:05 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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BEETHOVEN said: I think you need more Fresh Air Exchange....
The fuzziness on the base of some of your mushrooms I believe is a symptom of stale air...
true but can be also related to humidity problems, and as far as i now they get alot of fresh air...
Edited by bia (12/02/12 01:05 PM)
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zMan
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Re: Too dry or too wet? SGFC BRF problems [Re: bia]
#17320644 - 12/02/12 01:11 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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are they in a closet or in a room? How much perlite do you have at the bottom? Do you have holes on all 6 sides? How often are you misting and fanning? Do you have a humidity gauge?
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Re: Too dry or too wet? SGFC BRF problems [Re: bia]
#17320652 - 12/02/12 01:13 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fuzziness at the stems is not a sign of humidity problems. Thats misinformation.
Usually premature fruits opening is due to saturated substrate.
Also misting doesn't raise humidity... it's to help keep your substrate's hydrated.
Those fruits look starved of Fresh Air. If your fruits aren't dry after 20-30 minutes after misting, then you need more FAE. Also standing water on fruits will cause them to abort.
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bia
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Re: Too dry or too wet? SGFC BRF problems [Re: zMan]
#17320667 - 12/02/12 01:15 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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zMan said: are they in a closet or in a room? How much perlite do you have at the bottom? Do you have holes on all 6 sides? How often are you misting and fanning? Do you have a humidity gauge?
room 10cm yes 3 times a day misting 6 times fanning yes but its useless as RR would say its Chinese shit stuck at 95%rh constantly
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bia
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Re: Too dry or too wet? SGFC BRF problems [Re: DynGBreeD]
#17320679 - 12/02/12 01:19 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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DynGBreeD said: Fuzziness at the stems is not a sign of humidity problems. Thats misinformation.
Usually premature fruits opening is due to saturated substrate.
Also misting doesn't raise humidity... it's to help keep your substrate's hydrated.
Those fruits look starved of Fresh Air. If your fruits aren't dry after 20-30 minutes after misting, then you need more FAE. Also standing water on fruits will cause them to abort.
thanx finally some clarification, well the problem is when i mist them 3 out of the 5 cakes are dry in next 15-20mins after misting while other 2 take like 40 - 50 mins to get dry
also i have noticed when i fan more the pins don't develop normally, but usually their cap just explode/crack...and they abort...
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Re: Too dry or too wet? SGFC BRF problems [Re: bia]
#17320697 - 12/02/12 01:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Make sure your SGFC is sitting at least 3 feet off of the floor. And raised 3+ inches off of whatever it's sitting on.
I usually try and not set the one I use so close to the wall if I can keep from it.
If the caps are splitting its due from rapid growth. If it were from being dry there would be cracks on the caps.
Cubensis love FAE, provided correct humidity.
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Re: Too dry or too wet? SGFC BRF problems [Re: DynGBreeD]
#17320712 - 12/02/12 01:25 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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MS = genetic shoot
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Re: Too dry or too wet? SGFC BRF problems [Re: cubes4cancer]
#17320727 - 12/02/12 01:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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cubes4cancer said: MS = genetic shoot
its not a ms its p.cubensis var. cambodian
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Re: Too dry or too wet? SGFC BRF problems [Re: bia]
#17320752 - 12/02/12 01:30 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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He means multi-spore... Which is what you used, unless you obtained an isolate from Agar.
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Re: Too dry or too wet? SGFC BRF problems [Re: DynGBreeD]
#17320760 - 12/02/12 01:32 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sounds like you are doing everything right just maybe add a few more cm of perlite and just apply with DynGBreeD says or if you are you should be good to go.
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Re: Too dry or too wet? SGFC BRF problems [Re: bia]
#17320822 - 12/02/12 01:44 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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bia said:
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cubes4cancer said: MS = genetic shoot
its not a ms its p.cubensis var. cambodian
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Re: Too dry or too wet? SGFC BRF problems [Re: cloudpersona]
#17320849 - 12/02/12 01:50 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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cloudpersona said:
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bia said:
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cubes4cancer said: MS = genetic shoot
its not a ms its p.cubensis var. cambodian

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ROGERRABBIT: P cubensis will grow on stuffed animals, bibles, quarter pounds of weed, bras, etc.
In other words,it's hard to fuck up a cube grow.
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Re: Too dry or too wet? SGFC BRF problems [Re: cubes4cancer]
#17321008 - 12/02/12 02:14 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looks like verticillium. If it is that'd be from being too wet and not enough FAE. Although they don't look particularly wet at the moment.
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Re: Too dry or too wet? SGFC BRF problems [Re: Kizzle]
#17321060 - 12/02/12 02:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kizzle said: Looks like verticillium. If it is that'd be from being too wet and not enough FAE. Although they don't look particularly wet at the moment.
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