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Pan Subbs
    #1731877 - 07/20/03 08:54 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

In New York, are Pan Subbs as common as Pan Foens? What I'm saying is are Pan Subbs as easy to come across as Pan Foens are? Thank you


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Re: Pan Subbs [Re: shroomben2003]
    #1732038 - 07/20/03 12:02 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Pan Subbs [Re: ]
    #1735606 - 07/21/03 06:13 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Shit, theres no horse fields around me or even remotely close to me, maybe my lawn will be my best bet.


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Re: Pan Subbs [Re: shroomben2003]
    #1736124 - 07/21/03 09:01 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

best bet for foens :wink:


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Re: Pan Subbs [Re: Raadt]
    #1738788 - 07/22/03 06:11 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Umm why would I want Foens, their worthless.


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Re: Pan Subbs [Re: shroomben2003]
    #1738842 - 07/22/03 06:26 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

He was being facetious.


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    #1738857 - 07/22/03 06:30 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Pan Subbs [Re: ]
    #1739060 - 07/22/03 07:43 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Ha lol


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Re: Pan Subbs [Re: ]
    #1739597 - 07/22/03 10:27 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

While it is true that Panaeolus subbalteatus can grow on fertilized lawns its primary habitat is horse dung sometimes mixed with straw.




Thier primarry habitat is hay compost or bales of hay/sttraw which is also plain ofr has been composted with horse manuree , oyster shells or sea shells and even hickory nuts.

Its second primary habitat is cow manure, but is rare in such.

And again i bering to point out of millions of viewrs here at the shroomery, lss than a half dozen or so people and probabaly not ever more than a dozen have ever found and/or collected p. subbalteatus.

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have a shroomy day bfrom Bangkok.


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Re: Pan Subbs [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1739700 - 07/22/03 10:55 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Does any one have some pictures of dried Panaeolus subbalteatus ? I picked a bunch over the spring. And just wanted to see if they look the same as everyone elses. As far as I can tell they are Panaeolus subbalteatus but I never had them professionaly checked out. I have not eaten them eather. They looked like pan subbs and had black spore prints but still not satisfied with my self. Are there any true look alikes with black spore prints that will get me sick. Any other Panaeolus species that look like subbs but with different gills/spore color? Sorrey for asking this in you post.


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Re: Pan Subbs [Re: ]
    #1739871 - 07/22/03 11:52 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Damn. I posted in the wrong thread somehow.
Well, since I'm here, have a kick-ass time in Thailand Mj !!! :thumbup: :cool:
Even though I know you've been there many times, be careful. I hear it's getting pretty wild and lawless over there.
Which, depending on how you look at it, may not be a bad thing...........hehehe :wink:
Hope you find a couple of acres of those purple looking little psilocybes you discovered.

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Re: Pan Subbs [Re: ]
    #1739969 - 07/23/03 12:30 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I think I'm losing my mind. Maybe it's just after-mid-life crisis or something(i.e.old age). I posted in the right thread, but somehow got confused and edited it. :nut:

AFung,  I' ve seen people confuse Psathyrella velutina with pan subbs. Psa. vel. are not poisonous. Then there's always Pan. foen., except it doesn't have a black sporeprint.
A lot of the Panaeolus species can look similiar.
If all you have are dried specimens, the best bet for a correct ID, is to have a mycologist look at the sporeprint under a microscope.
Otherwise, I wouldn't eat them. Just try to find some fresh specimens, take some pics,prints and notes and you'll narrow down the ID.

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Re: Pan Subbs [Re: doo]
    #1740346 - 07/23/03 04:05 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Conufuse Psath. velutina with Pan. subbs? I'd say that's a stretch.
P. velutina and Ps. weilii is understandable, same habitat and a whatnot.


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Re: Pan Subbs [Re: Gumby]
    #1740848 - 07/23/03 12:38 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Velvety psathyrella can grow just about anywhere. I've seen'em come up in gravel parking lots, in the forest, and in lawns. And they have a long growing season, here in my area. In the past, here at the Shroomery, people have posted pics of the velvets, thinking they may be subbs. Occasionally, some even thought they were cubes.  And like you mentioned, Gumby, they've been mistaken for weilii.
I'm sure you and I wouldn't confuse the species, but to the untrained eye, a black-spored brown mushroom with an occasional zonate cap, could look tempting. Especially if you're hard up for a buzz of some sort......... :wink:

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Re: Pan Subbs [Re: doo]
    #1741006 - 07/23/03 02:02 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I would say almost definetly Subbs. Due to them growing off of rotted hay. They all display the zonate caps with jet plack spore prints. I will post some pics if I can find some more.


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