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Does this look okay?
    #17314717 - 12/01/12 01:04 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)



Im worried that it might be mold. My friend is saying that they are pinning. The little bumps just look kind of fuzzy, and not smooth

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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: SmileChild]
    #17314742 - 12/01/12 01:08 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Aerial mycelium. A good sign that your humidity is high. But you may not be fanning enough. Or your sgfc may be improperly constructed. Lack of fresh air is the cause. Its not mold.




Welcome to the shroomery. Your cakes look great other than you skipped rolling them in vermiculite after dunking. The verm layer is very beneficial.
Wait until after this flush is over before applying a verm layer. Don't do it right now the stress will do more harm than good.


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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #17314749 - 12/01/12 01:10 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

How would you suggest giving it fresh air?

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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: SmileChild]
    #17314763 - 12/01/12 01:15 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Fanning them 4-6 times per day. And make sure the chamber is built to exact specifications.

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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #17314995 - 12/01/12 02:14 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Okay, awesome! they have been in the chamber for about 3 days now, with what you've gathered so far... how long do you think it will be until i can see some development?

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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: SmileChild]
    #17315030 - 12/01/12 02:25 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

If your temps are in the 70-80F range pinning can take 4-10 days it varies from grow to grow, cake to cake and genetics can be a factor.
If temps are below 70F expect slower development incrementally slowing further with lower temps.

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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #17327304 - 12/03/12 03:21 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

well, they are penis envy mushrooms and they have begun to pin!
I've been fanning it but keeping the moisture on them as well. I can post a picture later

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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: SmileChild]
    #17327688 - 12/03/12 04:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Doing a roll in verm after the first flush could trap contaminate spores onto the surface of your cake. Many don't suggest this practice.

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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #17336855 - 12/05/12 06:31 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

now here are the shrooms that have popped up.
They look okay to me, but my friend is debating whether they are aborted or not



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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: SmileChild]
    #17336875 - 12/05/12 06:43 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

They are not aborted. The signs for abortion are in no way mistakable. They turn black and stop growing. Sometimes greyish depending on environmental factors. But you'll know without doubt they aborted, if they do.


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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: SmileChild]
    #17336878 - 12/05/12 06:44 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

They're not aborts.  They're fat pins.  Should grow out nicely.

Since you didn't roll them in verm, you're going to have a problem with them drying out quickly.  Did you dunk them after birthing?

Can you post pix of your FC?


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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
    #17337035 - 12/05/12 07:46 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I dunked them after birthing for about 15 hours. Then I mist them once or twice a day. and after i fan the chamber. Ill post pics of my set up here in a second.

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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: SmileChild]
    #17337037 - 12/05/12 07:47 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Typically, you should mist 4-6x a day, but since you didn't roll in verm, you should probably do it more often.


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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
    #17337069 - 12/05/12 07:57 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Ill be sure to mist them as much as possible. I check on them almost every hour.

Here are some pictures of my FC:

I have just a tub with an air pump going in, and two Co2 out put holes. a heating pad underneath and an LED light fixed on a solo cup inside. All wires are hooked to a timer that alternates power every hour.







Its not the prettiest, but it seems to be getting the job done. I have a humidifier, but i don't use it because the humidity is perfect without.

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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: SmileChild]
    #17337075 - 12/05/12 07:59 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

also, i don't keep my thermometer in the chamber, or i have to keep putting it in descant to read what it has gathered. I leave it in until its finished reading, then i remove it. I clean it with isopropyl alcohol each time before i put it in the chamber.

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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: SmileChild]
    #17337084 - 12/05/12 08:01 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

How do you know the humidity is perfect without a hygrometer?

Without a properly constructed SGFC, the perlite is doing nothing for you.  Additionally, that little perlite would do very little for you even in a proper SGFC.

The air pump is going to dry everything out very quickly, and since you didn't roll your cakes in verm, they'll be dry in no time.


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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
    #17337092 - 12/05/12 08:04 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

the thermometer is also tells the percent of humidity.
I put this grow kit together as it was instructed.

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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: SmileChild]
    #17337125 - 12/05/12 08:11 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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the thermometer is also tells the percent of humidity.
I put this grow kit together as it was instructed. I purchased the kit online.



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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
    #17337134 - 12/05/12 08:13 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

what?

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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: SmileChild]
    #17337186 - 12/05/12 08:32 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

If its a digital therm/hygrometer you may as well throw it away. The temps may be accurate on it but they are useless for reading proper humidity especially when above 80%


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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #17337267 - 12/05/12 08:59 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I disagree that perlite doesn't help unless you have constructed a sgfc. When I first started out on the pf tek, the sgfc hadn't even been invented, and if it had it most definitely was not common practice. my FC was just a fish aquarium with perlite in it, worked fine, I just fanned the fuck out of it every hour. perlite in the bottom of a tub has always been a standard for humidifying your terrarium. I do agree though that a sgfc will outperform any other basic fruiting chamber.

I do suggest putting in more perlite op. possibly even disassembling the "kit" and make a proper sgfc. You will like the results.


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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: serotonin storm]
    #17337882 - 12/05/12 11:22 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

what do you suggest i do to measure my humidity? also, if my air pump is drying it out? should i just remove it and fan occasionally?

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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: SmileChild]
    #17337967 - 12/05/12 11:36 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

You need a calibrateable, analog hygrometer to measure humidity.  You should ditch the air pump and turn your tub into a proper SGFC.


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Re: Does this look okay? [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
    #17338025 - 12/05/12 11:43 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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  You should ditch the air pump and turn your tub into a proper SGFC.





QFT forsure:popcorn:

Edit: thou i have seen great results with a PMP with a bit of pratice an TLC..
luck is also a factor when dealing with a MS grow...:shrug:

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