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Kalypto
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Light is causing early pinning)=
#17301546 - 11/29/12 06:31 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quite a few of my tupperwares have had pins form on only the side where i took the duct tape off to see colonization cause i thought it wouldnt cause pinning i seem to be quite wrong. they are at like 60% i birthed a few with larger pins that were more colonized just to see what would happen Should i let them finish colonizing in the tupperware and just let the pins grow?
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: Kalypto]
#17301550 - 11/29/12 06:34 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Took the duct tape off as in allowed fresh air inside? That would cause pinning.
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: Kalypto]
#17301554 - 11/29/12 06:35 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not trying to be an ass , but are you asking a question or just letting the community know?
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: TheCyndicate]
#17301582 - 11/29/12 06:48 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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There was supposed to be a question but i got side trackedXD
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: Kalypto]
#17301615 - 11/29/12 06:59 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Okay so what is your question?
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: Zerovirus]
#17301740 - 11/29/12 07:46 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Light doesn't cause side pins. If it's pinning before full colonization, it's either stalled out or contam'd. I've done many grows over the last couple years, never colonized in darkness. A lot of times, I just colonize under the same light I fruit in. Light is not as important as some people make it out to be IME
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#17301769 - 11/29/12 07:53 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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What can cause stalling?
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: Kalypto]
#17301779 - 11/29/12 07:56 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Contams usually, or the wrong size container for cakes (lack of air at the bottom / compacted substrate).
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#17301806 - 11/29/12 08:04 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Kalypto said: What can cause stalling?
Or trying to spawn to a non nutritious substrate!
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: Zerovirus]
#17302042 - 11/29/12 09:07 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Light isn't causing pinning. Put a garbage bag inside your container and you can avoid side pins.
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
#17303590 - 11/29/12 02:43 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Light is causing pinning there are only pins on lit sides Substrate is nutritive Very good chance it's packed too tight I packed it a bit but not much It still has give and such
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: Kalypto]
#17303666 - 11/29/12 02:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Light is not causing pinning. You're getting side pins because you didn't use a garbage bag to prevent a microclimate from forming between the substrate and the side of the tub.
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: Kalypto]
#17303684 - 11/29/12 02:57 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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, Use a trash bag liner so the sides do not get FAE...no FAE, no side pins...
Light is NOT causing the pinning, light is a secondary pinning trigger.
Main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and Evaporation off of the substrate.
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: PussyFart]
#17304091 - 11/29/12 04:02 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think he's talking about PF cakes guys, am I wrong?
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#17304121 - 11/29/12 04:08 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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FrankHorrigan said: I think he's talking about PF cakes guys, am I wrong? 
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Kalypto said: Quite a few of my tupperwares have had pins form on only the side where i took the duct tape off to see colonization
He didn't specify.
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: PussyFart]
#17304359 - 11/29/12 04:52 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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The heat from the light could be enhancing the side micro climate, but it's certainly not the light itself that is causing pinning. Many people store their jars in lit areas because cubes like light at all points during their growth. Light is useful but not a pinning trigger.
If the tupperware is mostly sealed leave them to colonize fully. The pins should hang out.
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: StygianKnight]
#17304633 - 11/29/12 05:48 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Its spawned bulk in tupperware. I dont believe my 23 watt CFL ten feet away would be able to produce that heat. I know that pinning is not normally a pinning trigger it is a secondary one from what i have read. If i had pins on any other surface but those facing light i wouldn't think for a second that it was, but because pinning is only happening on places receiving light what am i supposed to think?
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: Kalypto]
#17304804 - 11/29/12 06:17 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's probably contam'd then, if it's bulk and pinning early
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#17304891 - 11/29/12 06:30 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I havent seen any contams or metabolites well a few small drops in some i dont remember seeing any in the few that fruited
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: Kalypto]
#17304896 - 11/29/12 06:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Let it be and see what happens. I'd guess bacteria got your substrate in that stalled part. But I could be wrong. Did you pasteurize properly?
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#17304901 - 11/29/12 06:32 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Damions 50/50 tek =/
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: Kalypto]
#17304914 - 11/29/12 06:34 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Kalypto said: Damions 50/50 tek =/
Should be fine for just coir/verm. It's all I use...it hasn't failed me yet.
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: Kalypto]
#17304929 - 11/29/12 06:37 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here are some pics of my substrate colonized to monos near the same time i thought they looked a little red but i attributed it to the cocos colour

here are three more pics colonized about two to four days apart
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: Kalypto]
#17306072 - 11/29/12 10:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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If i had pins on any other surface but those facing light i wouldn't think for a second that it was, but because pinning is only happening on places receiving light what am i supposed to think?
Irrelevant. I've often seen the most pins on the side opposite the light. Pulling the tape off opened up a gap by pulling the tupperware away from the substrate. This gap is what stimulated the pins. Furthermore, a cfl 10 feet away isn't going to be enough for maximum growth once you get them in the terrarium. RR
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Re: Light is causing early pinning)= [Re: RogerRabbit]
#17307553 - 11/30/12 07:16 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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My terrarium is about two feet away underneath the light a bit off centered i keep my colonizing jars on the oopposite end of the light in my closet and thank you from now on iwill not be doing that
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