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Invisibleeric_the_red
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n. rustica as a pest repellent?
    #1730061 - 07/19/03 12:44 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

my plants are being attacked by some sort of flies that look similar to fruit flies. apparently, they live and breed in the dirt. they munch on young tender leaves and cactus sprouts. they eat my plants and annoy me in general.

i tried "concern" and "safer" insecticidal soap, but those didn't work to well. i was thinking of blending up a bunch of rustica leaves with habaneros and water for use as a spray on repellant. i am going to let the mix soak for a few days then strain out the solids. has anyone ever tried this, or something similar, before?


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Re: n. rustica as a pest repellent? [Re: eric_the_red]
    #1730715 - 07/19/03 06:19 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

that's a good idea, to be honest it will work. try to use distilled water in order to absorb the most from the plant mass, as most other waters already contain dissolved solids and salts. add a tablespoon of vegetable oil or vitamin e to each quart of spray, make sure you shake it when you srpay, every 10 seconds to rehomogenize the oil/water, this helps to work the mixture into the crevices of the very intricate exoskeletons of soft and hard bodied insects; so that the mixture simply does not beed off them. If at frist does not "work"; increase concentration by using more plant mass when making solution or increasing soaking time. Though rustica is much as poison as you can get unless its a certain resiliant insect, come n its nicotine. Have you tried powderized silicon dioxide, which may be quartz though please correct if wrong, safer makes it or maby it's concern. in combination, the two aforementioned employments would work complementary to each other as mechanical treatments to pest damamge.


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Re: n. rustica as a pest repellent? [Re: eric_the_red]
    #1731287 - 07/19/03 10:45 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Nicotine would definiteally work as a pesticide, but it seems a lil extreme and perhaps might backfire. If you add it, be very careful with the amount you use, there's a lot of nicotine in a very small amount of plant matter, and I wouldn't want you or your plants getting sick from it. Correct me somebody if I'm wrong, but wouldn't using tobacco leaves increase the risk of tobacco mosaic disease on the plant? I'm not sure about the specifics of the disease, but we were never allowed to smoke in the greenhouses at my former job because of this. A safer alternative I learned from my avid veggie growing gramp-pa is to mix a tiny bit of some dishsoap in with water, and spray that on the leaves of the plant, just the tops though! See if this lil less extreme method works first, and if it doesn't, try the nicotina, or any other posters guidlines to get this problem taken care of.

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Re: n. rustica as a pest repellent? [Re: biglo]
    #1731313 - 07/19/03 10:59 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

the tobacco i am using is tobacco i have grown. it does not have tobacco mosiac disease, so i'm not worried about that.


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Re: n. rustica as a pest repellent? [Re: eric_the_red]
    #1731395 - 07/19/03 11:43 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds like Fungus Gnats.........dry getting some dichotomous earth or course sharp sand and putting a thin layer on the surface of the soil.....this stuff is razor sharp to the fly's and the files' larvae's soft bodies and seems to do a good job at discouraging them from taking up residence in your soil.......


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Re: n. rustica as a pest repellent? [Re: eric_the_red]
    #1731927 - 07/20/03 08:42 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

tobacco mosaic disease only grows on tobacco from manufacturers sp. of cigarette tobacco. They cure it dry it and process the material in such a condensed area that bits and pieces are all over the ground and people being hosts walking in every day for their shifts at work who knows what they have on them. My guess is that after some time industries like these abtain tobacco mosaic by chance seeing how the food for the disease is always in one place once the disease begins growing in these industries it rarely ever leaves. So all cigarettes in theory would contain this disease because there is no way to prevent it due to circumstances of todays tobacco industries. Plus disease sets in in infertile abused and raped land, what more could be this than americas tobacco fields? knowledge states there are over 200 plus chemicals and highly dangerous compounds within the soil of these fields which simply dont have counterparts in nature so most don't break down, more like they are distributed back over the earth evenly, though this would take a million years, why anyone smokes the shit tobacco companys produce boggles the mind, did you just get a buzz or a mutation in the scull. those fields must be flat concrete by now glowing with radioactive isotopes and complex chlorinated hydrocarbons and other chemicals acting as radioactivesa like polonium and by-products of fertilizers and herbacides/pesticides-> shit cides really does not apply to one thing, so lets always just call them CIDES


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Re: n. rustica as a pest repellent? [Re: DazedSol]
    #1731964 - 07/20/03 09:14 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

some of them are fungus gnats. some are a larger type of gnat/fly that i have not seen before. i have already used diatomaceous earth. it cut them down nicely in the soil, but now they are all airborne or sitting on the plants. they'll get it in a few days when the spray is ready.  :devil: 


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Re: n. rustica as a pest repellent? [Re: eric_the_red]
    #1731994 - 07/20/03 09:35 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I have this same problem..
Try putting a bowl of water with a dash of dish soap mixed in.
It doesnt get all of them but it does help. :wink:
Im curious to see how your spray works.

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Re: n. rustica as a pest repellent? [Re: Effed]
    #1732073 - 07/20/03 10:30 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I use commercial cigarettes as my pesticide with some distilled water and dish soap, diluted of course. One cigarette in a bottle of water is diluted down until it is a translucent light brown.

I spray it on my plants to kill fungus gnats and it works just fine. I spray it in the soil to get them and on the underside of leaves. There has been on ill-effect on any of my plants, succulents or cacti. Everyone over reacts. Even and old timer gardener had reccomended this to me. Everyone over-reacts a little. Using a cigarette industry cigarette is just fine as long as it's diluted.

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Re: n. rustica as a pest repellent? [Re: neuro]
    #1732271 - 07/20/03 12:37 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

arent them whiteflies? do they all fly when you bother them and land back quickly?
if yes, nastrutium.

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Re: n. rustica as a pest repellent? [Re: felixhigh]
    #1732410 - 07/20/03 01:32 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

whatever they are, i basically use the same insecticide and it kills them all. my poison has no bias.

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Re: n. rustica as a pest repellent? [Re: neuro]
    #1735098 - 07/21/03 01:48 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I made the mix and it worked for my salvia i was growing ina sealed grow container. Dont inhale it i did and had to take my ashma puffer as long with a lightheadness that felt odd. Or maby im on a way to make smokless cigs?


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Re: n. rustica as a pest repellent? [Re: Remut]
    #1735400 - 07/21/03 03:14 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I think they make those already, "nicotine inhalers"

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Re: n. rustica as a pest repellent? (update) [Re: neuro]
    #1750995 - 07/26/03 03:27 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

today, i finished and used the mix i made. this stuff kicks ass. it knocks gnats out of the air and they are dead (or immobilized) by the time they hit the ground. i sprayed down my plants with it and the flies stay away from them now.

the only bad thing is that the jalapeno peppers i put in it are so strong that i start sneezing and my nose burns when i spray the stuff around.


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