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Offlineingo_2001
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I want crystals!!!
    #1729587 - 07/19/03 06:26 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I cannot obtain Methanol or Ethanol (being in the UK) is their any thing I can substitute it for and still get psilocybin crystals??? :noway: 


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Re: I want crystals!!! [Re: ingo_2001]
    #1729595 - 07/19/03 06:33 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

everclean 190 proof alcohol i'm not too sure if it is the same chemical as you said but that what i heard you can use too


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Offlineingo_2001
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Re: I want crystals!!! [Re: Psilocybin_monkey]
    #1729622 - 07/19/03 06:51 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think they sell it over here in England


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Re: I want crystals!!! [Re: ingo_2001]
    #1729626 - 07/19/03 06:56 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Wood alcohol?


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Re: I want crystals!!! [Re: cdchriscd]
    #1729649 - 07/19/03 07:15 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

ethonal is just methylated spirits


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    #1729728 - 07/19/03 08:30 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: I want crystals!!! [Re: ]
    #1729740 - 07/19/03 08:46 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Ethanol is just strong drinking liqour . Methanol is wood acohol is used as gas dry for your car. Isopropyl should work also . No matter which acohol that u choose make sure that it has the least amount of water that u can get .


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Re: I want crystals!!! [Re: 284_27]
    #1731527 - 07/20/03 02:34 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Everclear is 90% ethanol and 10% water.


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Re: I want crystals!!! [Re: shakta]
    #1734002 - 07/21/03 03:51 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

afoaf used the fuel addative 'heet' and also wood alcohol with sucess in extractions. I would try to find somthing very pure and make sure that you evaporate everything extremely throughly. If your going to use a commercial or hardware store solvent then make sure you contact the company and ask them if there are any other chimicals added to them. Do your research if your going to be doing extractions with non-lab chems. Alot of chemicals can damage the human body. IE: methanol, if not fully evaporated, will corrode the optic nerve. Not fun Stevie Wonder!


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Re: I want crystals!!! [Re: shakta]
    #1745030 - 07/24/03 05:00 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

NOpe, everclear is 190 proof -- 95% ethanol and 5% water.  :smile:


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Re: I want crystals!!! [Re: ingo_2001]
    #1745374 - 07/24/03 07:20 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

If its crystals you want, I would suggest learning basic organic chemistry. I don't think getting crystals is as easy as some make it sound. Maybe even try this


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Re: I want crystals!!! [Re: Sev]
    #1745706 - 07/24/03 08:55 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Sev said:
NOpe, everclear is 190 proof -- 95% ethanol and 5% water.  :smile: 




That is what my bottle says too, duh. I thought it was 180 proof for some reason. 


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Re: I want crystals!!! [Re: shakta]
    #1757672 - 07/28/03 11:30 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

go get a license to buy anhydrous alcohol 100% alcohol or go get a still and make your own. luckly my mate dave has one. can still up to 190 proof alcohol, but costs you some bucks but might save you money in the long run if you like to drink


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Re: I want crystals!!! [Re: spudamore]
    #1757825 - 07/29/03 12:09 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I can get anhydrous alcohol.


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Re: I want crystals!!! [Re: spudamore]
    #1757834 - 07/29/03 12:11 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

try an acetic acid extract


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Re: I want crystals!!! [Re: uneasyone]
    #1757893 - 07/29/03 12:27 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Agreed. Alcohol will get you a gummy residue that's hard to dissolve in anything. It WILL extract the psilocybin, but won't usually get you "crystals." You have to do an acetic acid extraction and then basify it and extract with a non-polar solvent.

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Re: I want crystals!!! [Re: micro]
    #1758031 - 07/29/03 12:59 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: I want crystals!!! [Re: ]
    #1762581 - 07/30/03 01:58 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I think I may be able to get hold of some methanol LR (don't know what the LR stands for though)... will this do it?


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Re: I want crystals!!! [Re: ingo_2001]
    #1762994 - 07/30/03 04:14 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I believe it was shulgin who showed that ethanol does not extract psilocybin and psilocin very effectively. Don't waste your time getting a liquor license so you can get anhydrous ethanol. Methanol is the preferred solvent, and its much more readily availble and cheaper.


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Re: I want crystals!!! [Re: the spiral]
    #1764483 - 07/31/03 12:52 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

methanol = heet , though i suspect that isopropyl would work too .


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