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Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution
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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: skatealex2]
    #17294982 - 11/28/12 01:21 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

A lil.


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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: koods] * 2
    #17294995 - 11/28/12 01:24 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

this is why no one cares about petitions


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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: venetianblinds]
    #17295004 - 11/28/12 01:27 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Very few people signed this though    Some other petitions get 10's of thousands of signatures

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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: skatealex2]
    #17295006 - 11/28/12 01:27 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

WTF? If that crazy motherfucker gets to sign it, I wanna sign it too.
I'd sooner like to see Charlie Manson sign it. Talk about goin' down a fucking rabbit hole.
What was that guys name in Back to the Future? Biff Tanner? The one who changed history and created an alternate timeline that totally sucked ass. Sometimes that's what I feel we're living in. Stories like this just reconfirm it.

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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: gary gnu] * 1
    #17295052 - 11/28/12 01:46 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I wish people would stop idolizng the founding fathers. They wrote a constitution that had some practical insights, but was also full of some seriously flawed ideas. Black people are worth 3/5 of a white person. Not exactly enlightened.


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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: koods]
    #17295122 - 11/28/12 02:09 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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I wish people would stop idolizng the founding fathers. They wrote a constitution that had some practical insights, but was also full of some seriously flawed ideas. Black people are worth 3/5 of a white person. Not exactly enlightened.




That 3/5 thing wasn't part of the original draft, it came in later. A good part of the founding fathers wanted to do away with slavery outright but knew it wasn't politicaly or economicly feasible so the best they could do was write in language about equality with the hope that it would eventually ring true. And it eventually did.
Don't doubt The Founders, they were badass, at least compared to anything that passes for a polititian today.

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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: skatealex2]
    #17295136 - 11/28/12 02:13 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I like Ron Paul, but I wouldn't find it appropriate to have him sign the Constitution.

Still, it would never happen, and signing the petition to let him do so would be a funny joke.  :smilingpuppy:


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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: gary gnu]
    #17295139 - 11/28/12 02:13 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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I wish people would stop idolizng the founding fathers. They wrote a constitution that had some practical insights, but was also full of some seriously flawed ideas. Black people are worth 3/5 of a white person. Not exactly enlightened.




That 3/5 thing wasn't part of the original draft, it came in later. A good part of the founding fathers wanted to do away with slavery outright but knew it wasn't politicaly or economicly feasible so the best they could do was write in language about equality with the hope that it would eventually ring true. And it eventually did.
Don't doubt The Founders, they were badass, at least compared to anything that passes for a polititian today.




women voting was out of the question though


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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: venetianblinds]
    #17295158 - 11/28/12 02:19 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

This is pants on head retarded, just like Ron Paul.


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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #17295285 - 11/28/12 03:23 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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This is pants on head retarded, just like Ron Paul.




You can't say that about RP, he wants to legalize pot and that's why we ignore that he is an old school racist who would let people die if they couldn't afford medical care. :facepalm3:


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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: koods]
    #17295289 - 11/28/12 03:26 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

*petition signed The Shroomery*

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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: koods]
    #17296330 - 11/28/12 10:58 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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I wish people would stop idolizng the founding fathers. They wrote a constitution that had some practical insights, but was also full of some seriously flawed ideas. Black people are worth 3/5 of a white person. Not exactly enlightened.




Right. Your laughing at them for not having 21st century values.

Good for you.


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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #17296404 - 11/28/12 11:16 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

This is as relevant as when Stephen Colbert ran for President of South Carolina. With much less humor. :thumbdown:


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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: kr0nik0]
    #17296426 - 11/28/12 11:24 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)


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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: koods]
    #17296442 - 11/28/12 11:27 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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I wish people would stop idolizng Ron Paul





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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: ganjfather] * 1
    #17297142 - 11/28/12 01:31 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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He'll always be idolized by ignorant people that are voting for him solely for his views on marijuana legalization.

Either way, all candidates are puppets, RP just happens to be an old, racist puppet.


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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: koods]
    #17299377 - 11/28/12 07:19 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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This is pants on head retarded, just like Ron Paul.




You can't say that about RP, he wants to legalize pot and that's why we ignore that he is an old school racist who would let people die if they couldn't afford medical care. :facepalm3:





I don't think Ron Paul is racist but I agree about his health care plans - thinking doctors will help people without  health care out of kindness is kind of ignorant.  People need to make money, most doctors aren't gonna help people if there's no health care.

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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: skatealex2]
    #17299391 - 11/28/12 07:21 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

can we instead sign a petition that says fuck the U.S. constitution?

lets make a new one. you know, one that can deal with the problems of today.


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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: SlashOZ]
    #17299403 - 11/28/12 07:22 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

The problem is if they make a new one the people in charge will sign away our rights.  :shrug:

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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: skatealex2]
    #17299502 - 11/28/12 07:37 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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The problem is if they make a new one the people in charge will sign away our rights.  :shrug:



What rights would they sign away?


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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: skatealex2]
    #17299529 - 11/28/12 07:40 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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The problem is if they make a new one the people in charge will sign away our rights.  :shrug:




really? i guess we better let the people that are currently in charge now, the same people you talk of, continue on with business as usual because its working out so well.

:rolleyes:


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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: Dr.Tooty]
    #17299530 - 11/28/12 07:40 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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The problem is if they make a new one the people in charge will sign away our rights.  :shrug:



What rights would they sign away?





Judging from bills signed into law by Bush and Obama they would take away our right to privacy as the patriot act does and the right to a fair trial which the National Defense authorization act takes away.    Also states rights as is evident with medical marijuana

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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: skatealex2]
    #17299539 - 11/28/12 07:41 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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The problem is if they make a new one the people in charge will sign away our rights.  :shrug:



What rights would they sign away?





Judging from bills signed into law by Bush and Obama they would take away our right to privacy as the patriot act does and the right to a fair trial which the National Defense authorization act takes away.    Also states rights as is evident with medical marijuana




If we were doing something as extreme as completely trashing the constitution and writing a new one I highly doubt something like The Patriot act would make its way there.


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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: SlashOZ]
    #17299542 - 11/28/12 07:42 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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The problem is if they make a new one the people in charge will sign away our rights.  :shrug:




really? i guess we better let the people that are currently in charge now, the same people you talk of, continue on with business as usual because its working out so well.

:rolleyes:





At least the constitution is still there so they can be fought off.  We still have a right to defend free speech, private property, bear arms, habeas corpus, etc...

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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: skatealex2]
    #17299554 - 11/28/12 07:44 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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The problem is if they make a new one the people in charge will sign away our rights.  :shrug:




really? i guess we better let the people that are currently in charge now, the same people you talk of, continue on with business as usual because its working out so well.

:rolleyes:





At least the constitution is still there so they can be fought off.  We still have a right to defend free speech, private property, bear arms, habeas corpus, etc...




oh yeah because we'd just get rid of those if we made a new constitution?

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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: SlashOZ]
    #17299569 - 11/28/12 07:47 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

lol, :facepalm:this thread. Boo the man! because!


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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: Dr.Tooty]
    #17299589 - 11/28/12 07:49 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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The problem is if they make a new one the people in charge will sign away our rights.  :shrug:




really? i guess we better let the people that are currently in charge now, the same people you talk of, continue on with business as usual because its working out so well.

:rolleyes:





At least the constitution is still there so they can be fought off.  We still have a right to defend free speech, private property, bear arms, habeas corpus, etc...




oh yeah because we'd just get rid of those if we made a new constitution?

:rolleyes:





Politicians that support the drug war, patriot act and national defense authorization act making a new constitution?  :uhoh:

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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: skatealex2]
    #17299670 - 11/28/12 08:00 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Politicians that support the drug war, patriot act and national defense authorization act making a new constitution?  :uhoh:




you mean the same things our current constitution allows. i think we can do better.


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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: SlashOZ]
    #17299810 - 11/28/12 08:18 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

The thing is the people making the constitution would be the same people that support those policies

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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: skatealex2]
    #17299833 - 11/28/12 08:21 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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The thing is the people making the constitution would be the same people that support those policies




would they be? i think a new constitution would entail a lot more than just letting the current congress write one. i'm thinking armed revolution or something like that. the idea of a new constitution is not to allow the old guard to continue to get their way, as they do now. otherwise, what would be the point? if you honestly think i'm advocating the current leadership of this country write a new constitution you, sir, are completely missing my point.


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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: SlashOZ]
    #17299858 - 11/28/12 08:26 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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The thing is the people making the constitution would be the same people that support those policies




would they be? i think a new constitution would entail a lot more than just letting the current congress write one. i'm thinking armed revolution or something like that. the idea of a new constitution is not to allow the old guard to continue to get their way, as they do now. otherwise, what would be the point? if you honestly think i'm advocating the current leadership of this country write a new constitution you, sir, are completely missing my point.




I'm just saying I'm not sure how it would be pulled off but if they could do it the right way it could be legit.  Maybe with constitutional experts and people concerned for freedom it would work.

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Re: Petition to allow Ron Paul to add his signature to the original constitution [Re: skatealex2]
    #17299894 - 11/28/12 08:31 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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The thing is the people making the constitution would be the same people that support those policies




would they be? i think a new constitution would entail a lot more than just letting the current congress write one. i'm thinking armed revolution or something like that. the idea of a new constitution is not to allow the old guard to continue to get their way, as they do now. otherwise, what would be the point? if you honestly think i'm advocating the current leadership of this country write a new constitution you, sir, are completely missing my point.




I'm just saying I'm not sure how it would be pulled off but if they could do it the right way it could be legit.  Maybe with constitutional experts and people concerned for freedom it would work.




we elect experts. experts get us the fucked up legislation we have now. lets get some real people to write the next constitution. experts gave us black people = 3/5ths of a person. experts gave us women can't vote. no, lets forget the experts this time around.


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