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Luu
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Help Please! White mold or Mycelium? Pics
#17292305 - 11/27/12 06:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi, Any help would be gratefully appreciated! This is my first grow, they have been in their FC for 6 days, misting and fanning everyday. Humidity is 90%, temp is fairly cool
This morning noticed small blooms of bright white ?mold? along and halfway on the mushroom (golden teachers)
Should I be concerned?
Ta!
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zMan
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Re: Help Please! White mold or Mycelium? Pics [Re: Luu]
#17292348 - 11/27/12 06:12 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hard to tell from those pics. Also next time you should dunk and roll your cakes, helps keep the moisture right for them while they are fruiting.
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Re: Help Please! White mold or Mycelium? Pics [Re: Luu]
#17296893 - 11/28/12 12:54 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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no worries thats goona be a big un lol.i see a mistake i think tho in your setup.is there anything keeping the cake off the perlite?i was taught that puttin it on perlite was asking for contams.i used jar lids for my cakes
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zMan
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Re: Help Please! White mold or Mycelium? Pics [Re: FELLO SHROOMER]
#17297219 - 11/28/12 01:46 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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FELLO SHROOMER said: no worries thats goona be a big un lol.i see a mistake i think tho in your setup.is there anything keeping the cake off the perlite?i was taught that puttin it on perlite was asking for contams.i used jar lids for my cakes
Directly on perlite will cause shrooms to grow into the perlite as well as possibly water log your cakes which will in turn ruin it.
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Re: Help Please! White mold or Mycelium? Pics [Re: FELLO SHROOMER]
#17298688 - 11/28/12 05:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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FELLO SHROOMER said: no worries thats goona be a big un lol.i see a mistake i think tho in your setup.is there anything keeping the cake off the perlite?i was taught that puttin it on perlite was asking for contams.i used jar lids for my cakes
Placing cakes directly on the perlite can over saturate the cakes. Water logged is a term for it. A water logged caked will not produce well.
OP, that is just mycelium on your fruits, possibly caused by low fresh air exchange. Are there holes in your fruiting chamber? How often are you misting and fanning?
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Re: Help Please! White mold or Mycelium? Pics [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#17304500 - 11/29/12 05:23 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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There are quite a number of small holes in the chamber, and I am misting and fanning twice a day.
The mushrooms are doing well! Especially the big one which seems to double in size everyday!
Thanks everybody for the info about keeping the cakes off the perlite, i'll be sure to carefully place them on their jar lids!
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Re: Help Please! White mold or Mycelium? Pics [Re: Luu]
#17304715 - 11/29/12 06:02 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am having similar issues telling white mold from mycellium! I had a cake about 40% colonized, and I swore it was white mold (maybe start of trich) and not just really cottony mycellium. So I put the damn thing outside for days on end and it never turned green. So I assume I wasted a good cake?
And I have to admit that this hobby is kicking my fuckin ass! Having all sorts of problems with trich. I think my area is just littered with trich(Im in a wooded area). It's mostly during G2G that Im having problems. I've almost given up on doing it until I get a flowhood.
But you know I am having success with pouring agar, making plates and transfers, and putting wedges in PF and grain without issues! Also no problems with inoculating jars. So why the hell is my G2G "not going as planned?"
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Re: Help Please! White mold or Mycelium? Pics [Re: FuckUp Eddy]
#17305047 - 11/29/12 07:00 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Luu said: There are quite a number of small holes in the chamber, and I am misting and fanning twice a day.
The mushrooms are doing well! Especially the big one which seems to double in size everyday!
Thanks everybody for the info about keeping the cakes off the perlite, i'll be sure to carefully place them on their jar lids!
Don't place on jar lids, they'll rust and you will be buying new lids before the next grow.
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FuckUp Eddy said: I am having similar issues telling white mold from mycellium! I had a cake about 40% colonized, and I swore it was white mold (maybe start of trich) and not just really cottony mycellium. So I put the damn thing outside for days on end and it never turned green. So I assume I wasted a good cake?
And I have to admit that this hobby is kicking my fuckin ass! Having all sorts of problems with trich. I think my area is just littered with trich(Im in a wooded area). It's mostly during G2G that Im having problems. I've almost given up on doing it until I get a flowhood.
But you know I am having success with pouring agar, making plates and transfers, and putting wedges in PF and grain without issues! Also no problems with inoculating jars. So why the hell is my G2G "not going as planned?"
Are you using at least a glove box to the G2G?
Either way sounds like you just have to tighten up your steralization technique. Turn off anything that moves air, oust the whole room, shower, gloves, oust everything again, wipe gloves down then g2g in a glove box.
I've read that misting the sides down with oust or alcohol will make most of the spores stick there. Also make sure none of the grain touches anywhere near the top of the jar getting transfered to and to not touch any part of the jars except sides of lids to lift them off. Other then that not much else you can do except flow hood I think.
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Re: Help Please! White mold or Mycelium? Pics [Re: zMan]
#17305798 - 11/29/12 09:21 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I put all my stuff in the closet and bleach/lysol nutra air the whole place and wait.I shower and jump right into a freshly laundered tyvek suit.I wear surgical gloves and mask. My hair is covered. The closet has a drop cloth and I use a still air box. The room leading to the closet has almost nothing in it.I wipe down the master and the grain jars with alcohol. The master doesn't show signs of contam, but the receiving jars all got screwed up.
I PC the grains for 130 at 15psi to by the way. I dont open the PC until inside the clean room. I even spray the inside of that after I open.
Like I said, Im having success with agar transfers and even wedges to brf. Dont know what the hell is going on with the G2G. Frustrating setbacks, but I wont quit until Im proficient. Im going to build a flowhood...that's all there is to it. If I run into a challenge, it just makes me that more determined to succeed. I dont even have use for larger amounts of shrooms, and I dont even eat them that often, it's just the challenge and the fun of the hobby.
Can higher colonization temps (im using polyfill filters by the way)cause contams? If so...why?
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Re: Help Please! White mold or Mycelium? Pics [Re: FuckUp Eddy]
#17312230 - 11/30/12 10:15 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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This has got to be mold correct?
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Re: Help Please! White mold or Mycelium? Pics [Re: FuckUp Eddy]
#17312254 - 11/30/12 10:19 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I believe that is mould. Certainly the second picture, not sure about the first.
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Re: Help Please! White mold or Mycelium? Pics [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#17312288 - 11/30/12 10:25 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok thanks...this would be a good pic for admin to save for examples of contamination. I couldn't find one quite like it anywhere. By the way, I put a cake like this out in the sun for days...and it didnt turn any colors. So Im wondering what kind of mold it could be.
ps. Also just posted on a thread titled Agar Issues in cultivation. Might be the same mold on agar along with some clean cultures.
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