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twistedty
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Re: cakes not fruiting [Re: PussyFart]
#17285937 - 11/26/12 05:19 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: Misting doesn't cause aborts, but misting and then sealing up a terrarium with wet pins inside does cause aborts. RR
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RogerRabbit said: Misting doesn't cause aborts. You can 'mist' by directly spraying with your finger over a garden hose if you wish. The thing which causes aborts is sealing the pinning substrate up in an airtight terrarium while the pins are soaking wet, as was often done around here in the early days. Instead of the noobs of old realizing it was a fresh air issue, they incorrectly thought it was a misting issue. RR
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RogerRabbit said: Don't tell me you read that horrible crap posted by noobs ten years ago about 'misting causes aborts' and believed it? You must mist your substrates to make up for the loss of moisture caused by proper fresh air exchange. RR
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Shroomslip said: For what it's worth you have me sold, I'm going to mist directly (I'm not growing yet I'm still reading, soaking up knowledge).
Question though.. Once the fruits start to develop and get larger, do you keep misting? Or does this only apply to the cakes when they're still just pinning?
yes, mushrooms love water 
mist multitple times a day, no matter what fruiting stage they are in
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Shroomslip said: For what it's worth you have me sold, I'm going to mist directly (I'm not growing yet I'm still reading, soaking up knowledge).
Question though.. Once the fruits start to develop and get larger, do you keep misting? Or does this only apply to the cakes when they're still just pinning?
You keep misting them, mushrooms are 90% water, so the cakes need water...lol at this guy tho...trying way too hard.
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Re: cakes not fruiting [Re: PussyFart] 1
#17286077 - 11/26/12 05:37 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tell me how you "Seal" a SGFC? Like I said I have a perpetual harvest going with jars. I mist the perlite, the walls and have fat fruits forever. If I get over misty and the cakes get hit with the fine mist, those pins that have developed heads, abort. Maybe one day Deskjet you can actually try growing, put all that grey matter to some use, other then spitting out old posts.
What works for some doesn't always work for others, and just because RR said it, doesn't always make it the best answer. Got something on your nose Deskjet...it's brown..
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Re: cakes not fruiting [Re: miceus]
#17286155 - 11/26/12 05:46 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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GimpCollector said: Tell me how you "Seal" a SGFC?
Maybe one day Deskjet you can actually try growing, put all that grey matter to some use, other then spitting out old posts.
Got something on your nose Deskjet...it's brown..
Im gonna call u my ream...yea, your my ream of deskjet paper....
You can't seal a SGFC ream, it has holes all around it. They used to used sealed containers back in the day tho, before they knew constant FAE was a good thing ream. Its all explained in the search function ream...I promise...
I mist my cakes, and my bulk substrates directly, and I get no aborts ream.
The fact that u keep repeating I don't know how to grow is funny as hell, the first two links in my signature proves you wrong, so were done there ream.
And I never quote old posts...they are all from threads that are newer that 2 years old ream.
Theres 3 or 4 different TCs opinions I quoted, all proving you wrong, not just RR ream.
I now have you ignored ream...
Bye ream.
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Re: cakes not fruiting [Re: PussyFart]
#17286168 - 11/26/12 05:49 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shroomery: come for the tek, stay for the drama.
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Re: cakes not fruiting [Re: PussyFart]
#17288124 - 11/26/12 11:58 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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GimpCollector said: FAE is the issue. Resolve that, you'll trigger the pinning. Watch over lay on the fluffy stuff, don't mist the cakes directly, mist the clay, or perlite, mist the walls. Fan the SGFC every two hours.
You should wait till you see invitro pinning before birthing in the future, this will speed your fruiting along as well.
Ignore this whole post...
He obviously doesn't know what overlay is, you do want to mist the cakes directly, and do not mist the walls as there is no point...they won't grow.

Also, never trust someone who proudly posts pictures of their PF jars upside down.
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a little cakehistory, they were ms inn. , very long colonization time, 3 weeks i would estimate maybe 4, i cant remember...i let them 5 days after 100%...no camera atm, the sgfc has holes on all sides,smaller than 1/4" but they are closer..2-3 mm in diameter..ill change the clay with perlite tommorow, and start misting and fanning 5-6 time a day..what should i do after primordia, same mist/fan?
2-3mm = about 1/8". I don't think I've read anything about whether or not you can compensate by putting more holes closer together. It seems like it would work, as long as the holes in the bottom don't clog. Make sure your SGFC isn't sitting on the ground. If it is, prop it up on some lids or scrap wood. If it's already off the ground, then your holes are probably too small. I would enlarge about half of your existing holes to about 6mm. Also, you said you'll start fanning tomorrow. If you're not fanning currently, that could be contributing to your lack of FAE.
Mist and fan as usual forever. as long as there's cakes in your SGFC, you should be misting and fanning.
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GimpCollector said: I have anywhere from 30 to 40 jars fruiting at anyone time, so if you want to get rid of the aerial myc growth, do as I suggest, or take Deskjets advice.
I have over 100 PF jars going (and I use the correct jars). Misting the walls does nothing for you. Mist the cakes directly. Don't wait for invitro pinning to birth the jars. Sometimes invitro pinning occurs long after a jar is ready to be birthed, and sometimes it happens before the jar is fully colonized. Birth the jars a week after the jars are 100% colonized. There should be space between the myc and the walls of the jar. Frequently, the verm layer will start to fall down on the sides.
You never have to worry about overlay. Ignore EVERYTHING you read about it. Overlay is about as common as a hot virgin at a jr. college.
I don't understand the name "DeskJet". A printer is used to transfer something from the virtual world to the physical world, so anything involving a DeskJet would not subsequently show up online.
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))) so after reading the above posts this is the ideea: real sgfc, 1/4" holes, 5" perlite instead of clay. the room has no vent sistem the old setup was elevated too with a coolmist blowing underneath, now is off set roomtemp -1degree fae and ss evap will be priority
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Re: cakes not fruiting [Re: miceus]
#17288893 - 11/27/12 06:12 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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btw, dark on the bottom jars means? i didnt check em before lc inn., hope not sterilization burns..
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Re: cakes not fruiting [Re: miceus]
#17296995 - 11/28/12 01:10 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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a little update, pins:D deff they lacked fae, but honestly i think not enough consolid time was also an issue wit dis ones.. what do u guys think, coolmist humidifier and vent programed to work 4-6 times a day blowing on the sgfc will be a set and forget setup ?of course the fan will probably run 2 mins and the coolmist 30 maybe 1h
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Re: cakes not fruiting [Re: miceus]
#17297025 - 11/28/12 01:15 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, no humidifier or fans...they will ruin your RH.
Just Fan more often if they are lacking FAE, or mist heavier if they are drying out too fast...
Nothing mechanical is needed for a SGFC, it works off of the natural air currents in a room, disturb those currents and your RH drops.
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Re: cakes not fruiting [Re: PussyFart]
#17297236 - 11/28/12 01:49 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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ok roger that. no more fan and coolmist from now on,thx for the advice. ill update in a few days
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