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OfflineQrtx
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Getting caught for ordering spores.
    #17279597 - 11/25/12 03:26 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I hope i post this in the appropriate section.

I am a resident of Estonia and I am willing to order some spore prints from Netherlands or Ukraine, but I feel a bit paranoiв because even though spores aren't considered illegal here, their import is.

I have found 2 estonian news articles where people were arrested at the post office for recieving packages with psilocybe spores, but one had them in form of syringes and the other one ordered spores, cases for growing, substrate and other stuff all in one package. I guess that ordering a simple print is somewhat safer, but I am still not very confident about it.

So, what do you think is the chance that the estonian post will somehow find the spores? And maybe there are any estonian shroomers that would be so kind to share/sell some spore prints to me (for microscope research).

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Re: Getting caught for ordering spores. [Re: Qrtx]
    #17279612 - 11/25/12 03:29 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

For a spore print? They get sent in envelopes. I doubt they'll notice a letter.


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Re: Getting caught for ordering spores. [Re: cloudpersona]
    #17279669 - 11/25/12 03:42 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

But is there any way they scan or control letters at the customs?

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Re: Getting caught for ordering spores. [Re: Qrtx]
    #17279687 - 11/25/12 03:45 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Qrtx said:
But is there any way they scan or control letters at the customs?





your way to paranoid, they dont scan every letter that comes to estonia, and if they did they arent gonna recognize a piece of paper or foil with a print on it in an envelope

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Re: Getting caught for ordering spores. [Re: Qrtx]
    #17279691 - 11/25/12 03:46 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Most of us aren't gonna be able to tell you much about Estonian laws or postal service habits.


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Re: Getting caught for ordering spores. [Re: Qrtx]
    #17279699 - 11/25/12 03:47 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Try ordering inside your country.  Check the onion sites...

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Re: Getting caught for ordering spores. [Re: Qrtx]
    #17279701 - 11/25/12 03:47 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Of course they can, the question is do they. Unless someone here works for the Estonian customs/post, then your guess is as good as anyone's.


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Re: Getting caught for ordering spores. [Re: ArchNemesis]
    #17281240 - 11/25/12 07:38 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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ArchNemesis said:
Try ordering inside your country.  Check the onion sites...





um, whut meen.

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Re: Getting caught for ordering spores. [Re: Qrtx]
    #17281276 - 11/25/12 07:49 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

You've got to be ok for a spore print...

If you are really worried though can you have it sent to a friend outside of your country? He can then write you a short letter and claim to be sending you a spore print form a Shitake or some random mushroom he found growing on a log. Then you haven't "imported" anything. Someone simply sent you a letter that happened to contain an unsolicited spore print.

If you are really paranoid he can put the right address , wrong name on the envelope, as well as bogus return credentials.

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Re: Getting caught for ordering spores. [Re: BEETHOVEN]
    #17281550 - 11/25/12 08:35 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

TOR


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Re: Getting caught for ordering spores. [Re: fatrat]
    #17281662 - 11/25/12 08:58 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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fatrat said:
TOR



Then u lose a lot of functionality.

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Re: Getting caught for ordering spores. (moved) [Re: Qrtx]
    #17281839 - 11/25/12 09:30 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

This thread was moved from Mushroom Cultivation.

Reason:
Moved to security and safety forum.

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Re: Getting caught for ordering spores. (moved) [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #17282659 - 11/26/12 01:26 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

You could always find some wild actives to get spores from.  Looks like liberty caps, gymnopilus of some type, and p. cinctulus/subbalteatus grow in Estonia.

Doing it from scratch will be more complicated and involve things like agar.  I've heard libs are just about impossible to cultivate, but I know subbs can be grown with the right technique.  However, it's way too cold in Estonia this time of year for subbs to be fruting.

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Re: Getting caught for ordering spores. (moved) [Re: dokunai]
    #17282692 - 11/26/12 01:40 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

You said it yourself they ordered spores AND ALL THE STUFF TO GROW THEM in one package so if you don't do that they have no reason to get you because they can't prove intent to cultivate. Just order spores and if your paranoid pay some extra for fast shipping or drive there and pick some up at a store :shrug: but if you only order spores and only spores no growing equipment with it then you won't get caught.

EDIT: ALSO a syringe is ALOT MORE likely to get caught be well its a syringe not a piece of paper/foil


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Re: Getting caught for ordering spores. (moved) [Re: Qrtx]
    #17283665 - 11/26/12 09:11 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks guys, I feel a bit less paranoid now, going to order some prints next week.

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    #17287307 - 11/26/12 09:24 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I'll mail you a cube print on foil to Estonia from the USA if you want to eliminate a potential paper trail on your credit card too. PM me your mailing address and I'll get it out in the next couple days. I'm just glad to see our hobby taking root in Eastern Europe.


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Re: Getting caught for ordering spores. (moved) [Re: Qrtx]
    #17288692 - 11/27/12 04:12 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Best bet is a spore print in a thin plastic bag in a birthday or holiday card.

The ones meant to hold cash are great for acid sheets, too.

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Re: Getting caught for ordering spores. (moved) [Re: Adden]
    #17311172 - 11/30/12 07:14 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Dystopia said:
Best bet is a spore print in a thin plastic bag in a birthday or holiday card.

The ones meant to hold cash are great for acid sheets, too.




You could use one of those Red Envelopes full of Money that the Chinesse hand to their Children for New Years.  Take one of them Red Envelops and place the spore print inside.  Then put it in a birthday card or some shit.

Should work unless the Babylon in Estonia get's a wild hair up their arses.


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Re: Getting caught for ordering spores. (moved) [Re: Adden]
    #17321571 - 12/02/12 03:53 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Dystopia said:
Best bet is a spore print in a thin plastic bag in a birthday or holiday card.

The ones meant to hold cash are great for acid sheets, too.




:thumbup:

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Re: Getting caught for ordering spores. (moved) [Re: Its Pat]
    #17327580 - 12/03/12 04:08 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Its Pat said:
You could use one of those Red Envelopes full of Money that the Chinesse hand to their Children for New Years.





I want to know what kind of envelopes you are talking about.

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