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Re: Petition to legalize Mushrooms, DMT and Mescaline! [Re: LucyLove]
#17279048 - 11/25/12 01:35 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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BobbySkidz
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Re: Petition to legalize Mushrooms, DMT and Mescaline! [Re: 1200 mg Serotonin]
#17279099 - 11/25/12 01:45 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Petition to legalize Mushrooms, DMT and Mescaline! [Re: LucyLove]
#17279108 - 11/25/12 01:47 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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I spent several years stationed in Germany. During that time I took several trips to Holland where as you know shrooms and pot were legal. I never once saw anyone acting stupid, and I never saw any cops now that I think about it either. Seriously, it was a very relaxed and fun atmosphere. I did not visit Amsterdam because it is a tourist trap. But the other cities had all the same attractions and none of the American tourists acting crazy like you see in the movies. Honestly the people are very laid back and responsible about it because they grew up around it. If it were legalized here in the states there would be a breaking in period that I believe would get rough because we have a lot of ignorant idiots here who can't handle their fun responsibly. But after a while it would change and be just like Holland. Which if you ask me was as close to heaven on earth as we are going to get.
Just my 2 cents...
BTW - waiting for the email to come so I can sign it.
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Re: Petition to legalize Mushrooms, DMT and Mescaline! [Re: Ran-D]
#17279169 - 11/25/12 02:00 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ran-D said: We all already use as many drugs as we want to whenever we want to anyways...
Yeah, but wouldn't it be nice to not have to worry about getting thrown in jail for doing so? I guess you don't mind housing drug users who've harmed no one in prisons on your tax dollars.
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Re: Petition to legalize Mushrooms, DMT and Mescaline! [Re: MorphinTime]
#17279234 - 11/25/12 02:12 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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I guess you don't mind housing drug users who've harmed no one in prisons on your tax dollars.
Nice fallacious attack.
No I do not support prison, stupid comment. But I do not worry about getting thrown in prison for using mushrooms because I know it will never happen. Selling drugs gets you locked up, not using them once.
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Re: Petition to legalize Mushrooms, DMT and Mescaline! [Re: Ran-D]
#17279281 - 11/25/12 02:19 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah it was fallacious, I cede to that.
Not everyone in prison for drugs was selling them though. A lot of them were probably certain getting locked up wouldn't happen to them, then shit happened. You can always reduce the chances of getting caught, but sometimes wildcard factors come along and the cautious ones get fucked.
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SurReality
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Re: Petition to legalize Mushrooms, DMT and Mescaline! [Re: MorphinTime]
#17279576 - 11/25/12 03:22 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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i'm sure most the people who get in trouble got in trouble for selling, but there are plenty of possibilities of getting busted just for possession and even manufacture if they are not selling. i'm pretty sure that most people who grow here just grow enough for personal use, there's only a hand full of people out of everyone who knows how to grow that grow bulk.
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Par
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Re: Petition to legalize Mushrooms, DMT and Mescaline! [Re: SurReality]
#17279801 - 11/25/12 04:04 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey wanted to say that Canadians are allowed to sign the petition as well, if it has not already been noted. Also it is Wiccan_Seeker's birthday
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Re: Petition to legalize Mushrooms, DMT and Mescaline! [Re: Par]
#17279953 - 11/25/12 04:34 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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I love the idea to legalize psych's but there is no way this would ever pass
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SurReality
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Re: Petition to legalize Mushrooms, DMT and Mescaline! [Re: FruitOfLife]
#17280147 - 11/25/12 04:58 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think it should just focus on mescaline, as the petition says in the one sentence of details. it is not really trying to legalize, but actually stop discrimination and allow what is legal for some people to be legal for all. There's is no law that allows mushrooms or dmt plants for anyone in the US as far as i know, only peyote.
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Re: Petition to legalize Mushrooms, DMT and Mescaline! [Re: SurReality]
#17280312 - 11/25/12 05:21 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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SurReality said: I think it should just focus on mescaline, as the petition says in the one sentence of details. it is not really trying to legalize, but actually stop discrimination and allow what is legal for some people to be legal for all. There's is no law that allows mushrooms or dmt plants for anyone in the US as far as i know, only peyote.
dmt comtaining plants arent currently illegal.
there are many types of mescaline containing cacti that arent illegal.
shroom spores that can produce shrooms arent illegal.
however it's illegal to use any of these to produce drugs.
which isn't a problem as long as you keep tight lips.
this petition isnt going to accomplish anything other than awareness, which is kinda bad.
don't get me wrong, i'm all for legalization of these substances, but the majority of people are too retarded for them *ahem* lawmakers*ahem*
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Re: Petition to legalize Mushrooms, DMT and Mescaline! [Re: SurReality]
#17280457 - 11/25/12 05:37 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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SurReality said: I think it should just focus on mescaline, as the petition says in the one sentence of details. it is not really trying to legalize, but actually stop discrimination and allow what is legal for some people to be legal for all. There's is no law that allows mushrooms or dmt plants for anyone in the US as far as i know, only peyote.
Google "santo daime church". Laws are sometimes oxymorons when it comes to religion.
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Signed, 286 strong
oh and happy birthday OP!
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FruitOfLife
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Re: Petition to legalize Mushrooms, DMT and Mescaline! [Re: Legend]
#17280759 - 11/25/12 06:19 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree with salomon...
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SurReality
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Re: Petition to legalize Mushrooms, DMT and Mescaline! [Re: Salomon]
#17281021 - 11/25/12 06:57 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Salomon said:
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SurReality said: I think it should just focus on mescaline, as the petition says in the one sentence of details. it is not really trying to legalize, but actually stop discrimination and allow what is legal for some people to be legal for all. There's is no law that allows mushrooms or dmt plants for anyone in the US as far as i know, only peyote.
dmt comtaining plants arent currently illegal.
there are many types of mescaline containing cacti that arent illegal.
shroom spores that can produce shrooms arent illegal.
however it's illegal to use any of these to produce drugs.
which isn't a problem as long as you keep tight lips.
this petition isnt going to accomplish anything other than awareness, which is kinda bad.
don't get me wrong, i'm all for legalization of these substances, but the majority of people are too retarded for them *ahem* lawmakers*ahem*
dmt containing plants may currently be legal, but not in the sense that peyote is legal for Navajos on the Navajo Reservation. I have read about someone using ayahuasca for religious reasons being prosecuted a while back.
not to mention customs are confiscating MHRB left and right. so how can they do that if it is legal?
also if you know anyone who have been brought up around peyote ceremonies, they consider extracted mescaline to be blasphemy and there is no doubt that mescaline alone does not produce the same effect as peyote.
yea i don't know how i feel about this stuff becoming legal, my main concern is that since DMT is illegal that its going to be harder and harder to get plants that produce DMT.
i do see how this can go either direction, but come on we are in a very historical time when it comes to legalization of drugs. marijuana is legal in 2 states and i think we should keep moving forward and popularize the serious idea that the war on drugs has been the most destructive war yet, not only does it cause many unnecessary deaths but it also ruins more lives than anything by putting nonviolent people behind bars and making it harder for them to get good jobs for the rest of their lives.
the spirit molecule is on netflix for god's sake, i think these drugs are as popular as they have ever been and talking about legalizing them is not really going to make them much more known than they already are.
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Re: Petition to legalize Mushrooms, DMT and Mescaline! [Re: FruitOfLife]
#17281037 - 11/25/12 06:59 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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I signed it because I love psychedelics, but I don't really know if I want them legal. Are you guys sure that you would like a jar of mushrooms sold in the gas station nearest you?
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Re: Petition to legalize Mushrooms, DMT and Mescaline! [Re: OZA]
#17281271 - 11/25/12 07:48 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't think it can hurt . I voted.
On a side note, if you're still paying attention to this thread, happy birthday, Wiccan Seeker!
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Re: Petition to legalize Mushrooms, DMT and Mescaline! [Re: OZA]
#17281892 - 11/25/12 09:40 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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OZA said: Are you guys sure that you would like a jar of mushrooms sold in the gas station nearest you?
Yes.
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SurReality
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Re: Petition to legalize Mushrooms, DMT and Mescaline! [Re: atwas]
#17282580 - 11/26/12 12:46 AM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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wow this petition blew up, i thought it only needed 150 signatures. now it says 25,000, but it now has ten times more signatures than when i signed lol. i feel like someone people are just making fake accounts or something and signing it like crazy.
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Re: Petition to legalize Mushrooms, DMT and Mescaline! [Re: LucyLove]
#17283159 - 11/26/12 05:53 AM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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sum_peeps said: Do I want my name to be on a list given to the government showing I like drugs?....no thanks
Fake name dumbass
Which demonstrates just why online petitions are so worthless.
All you who are so pleased with yourselves have done, is to fool yourselves into thinking your signatures on an online petition matter.
But hey... good for you!
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