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modern.shaman
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Cactus Grafting Techniques Thread 4
#17252323 - 11/20/12 12:33 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Edited by modern.shaman (11/20/12 12:50 PM)
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modern.shaman
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Re: Cactus Grafting Techniques Thread [Re: modern.shaman]
#17252405 - 11/20/12 12:47 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here is a collection of grafting videos with different stocks and techniques.
Opuntia Stock
Opuntia Stock Different Technique
Opuntia Stock Another Technique
Next Generation Technique with Opuntia Stock
Pereskiopsis Stock
Pereskiopsis Stock Different Technique
Hatiora on Pereskiopsis Stock
Grafting Euphorbia
Edited by modern.shaman (11/27/12 07:50 PM)
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Re: Cactus Grafting Techniques Thread [Re: modern.shaman]
#17252408 - 11/20/12 12:48 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pretty Sweet
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Re: Cactus Grafting Techniques Thread [Re: Funki Porcini]
#17260104 - 11/21/12 06:18 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just squeezed a little loph button onto a Per. and it took. Well , 1 out of two did.
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Re: Cactus Grafting Techniques Thread [Re: Urb]
#17260342 - 11/21/12 06:56 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Does season matter?
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modern.shaman
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Re: Cactus Grafting Techniques Thread [Re: nitelife]
#17260441 - 11/21/12 07:16 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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According to naum the season does matter
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naum said:...they won't grow or take grafts well when it is colder even in warm (by US standards) climates. If you put them under lights inside you can do it year round. They really like it hot and bright so if you've got one a MH or HPS would be an excellent choice for established grafts and Pereskiopsis mothers.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17113438#17113438
In South Florida my pereskiopsis are still growing strong and my grafts are still taking hold but this may change in Winter, 1 month from now... I'll attempt again in winter to report the results. My daily temperatures are always in the mid 70's and lows in the low 60's. The pereskiopsis and grafts are also in Full Sun. Florida also has high humidity year round so that also plays a factor, its rarely below 50%.
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Re: Cactus Grafting Techniques Thread [Re: modern.shaman]
#17262872 - 11/22/12 05:49 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here in south texas it seems the hotter the better. I have been having shitty results as of late. Due to the weather I take. I dont like losing seedling especially not expensive cacti seeds.
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Re: Cactus Grafting Techniques Thread [Re: modern.shaman]
#17264142 - 11/22/12 12:18 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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My cacti are slowing down. The various pups that were putting off strong growth have slowed down 50% or more. Im in south florida myself, but i think they will do well into winter.
Today i noticed a third pup on a toped san pedro. All my peruvian seedlings recieved a light watering. I also found a crest San pedro on ebay i may have to buy.
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Re: Cactus Grafting Techniques Thread [Re: modern.shaman]
#17282503 - 11/26/12 12:10 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is how I graft to my Trich stocks, using electrical tape and the middle part of a band-aid to hold the scion on. This is an Astrophytum Asterias on a funky San Pedro, on which I had previously tried two (obviously unsuccessful) areole grafts.  For grafting to Pereskiopsis, I use the saran wrap and clothespin method.
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Re: Cactus Grafting Techniques Thread [Re: ToolTroll]
#17282794 - 11/26/12 02:15 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Instantly bookmarked!
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Re: Cactus Grafting Techniques Thread [Re: dstark]
#17289293 - 11/27/12 08:29 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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nice one modern.
some thoughts. in warmer climates it is often the wet season that is the off season mostly due to pathogens. for example here i can only graft late fall through winter into early spring until the heat an drain comes. when that happens, pathogens are floating around by the trillions and with the raised humidity you get a lot of rot going on. after temp and light, i think things like fungi are the next biggest thing to consider. And in these climates your attachment of scion and stock method will vary. in humid areas, they need more air flow so covering in plastic type materials will lead to more rot. whereas in places like the western area of NA its often so dry in summer the humidity may need to be raised artificially.
one last A.D.D fueled thought. when fresh grafts are watered, or still moist in the pot, the stocks can often push up and form large masses of jelly like substance, callous tissue. this is more common in very humid conditions. you can experiment with this by cutting a nice fast growing stock like hylocereus or any common columnar and place something on it or wrap an inflated bag over it and tape it. next day can see a bunch of this jelly if stock is well hydrated. I wonder if this could be cleaned up and put straight into TC and avoid having the slower process of waiting for tissue cuts to callous.
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Re: Cactus Grafting Techniques Thread [Re: kadakuda] 1
#17399259 - 12/15/12 11:04 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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How I graft obscurely shaped cacti. In this case its a FUKUROKURYUZINBOKU. Here is the original grafted cactus and it after removing the top half.
After cutting and alining the vascular rings I place a screen on top of the cactus and pull down firmly on it.
I tie the screen securely onto the pot to ensure that the connection has enough downward pressure on the join to have a solid connection. Pull down on the screen from all locations to ensure that the downward pressure is secure. You may need assistance in tying the screen to the pot.

I now leave the graft in the shade for 3-4 days until the stock has calloused... I then carefully remove the screen without knocking the scion and place it in full sun or where it will stay. The graft will still be callousing for the next few days so do not be rough with the connection.
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Re: Cactus Grafting Techniques Thread [Re: modern.shaman]
#17411217 - 12/18/12 09:28 AM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Cactus Grafting Techniques Thread [Re: ken1993] 2
#17541136 - 01/13/13 07:22 AM (11 years, 17 days ago) |
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Heres some 1 year old lophs I used for grafting, and their regrowth. I didn't graft the roots of these, and made sure to leave at least 1 areole per plant.
Grafts performed on 24th November 1st pic 5th December 2nd pic 7th January
And a few pics of just one, approx a week apart each shot
12th Dec 19th Dec 26th Dec 4th Jan 12th Jan
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Grafting tubercles on Opuntia stock
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Bookmarked! Thank you for posting this info guys! This makes grafting look a lot easier than it sounded when I first heard about it
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Re: Cactus Grafting Techniques Thread [Re: TheDeathryder]
#17550654 - 01/15/13 06:12 AM (11 years, 15 days ago) |
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That old guy in the videos must have skin thicker than pigs on his fingers! he rubs and molests those pereskiopsis as if they were harmless! its actually annoying him touching them like that, i feel like i want to tell him off!
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Re: Cactus Grafting Techniques Thread [Re: Juke Adro] 1
#17561995 - 01/17/13 11:36 AM (11 years, 13 days ago) |
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Just some observations I've noticed that I believe is worth sharing.
- The larger the pereskiopsis the quicker the growth.
I see lots of members using very small pereskiopsis... they do still grow much faster than on own roots but larger stock would result in quicker growth. The "downside" to this is that with all of the vigorous growth the graft tends to pup as soon as it grows from every areola. (Some may want this effect to more quickly propogate a certain seedling/species without needing to cut the top) 6 inches seems to be the golden length... it prevents excessive pupping and give a nice boost to the growth.
7 Pups

- Grafts on pereskiopsis grow faster when given nitrogen.
We usually give very little nitrogen to our cacti fearing that they will burn or grow odd. This is true with cacti on their own roots but when grafted on the pereskiopsis they seem to benefit from the nitrogen. The exact amount is VARIABLE as I'm still experimenting with this. I have given a 'high' amount of nitrogen to two grafts and they have not shown any negative effects so far however its only been a little over a month so you may have negative results if you experiment with this. I'm currently using a large amount of time release fertilizer with 19-6-12 NPK. I've used more than the suggested amount and there has been no burning as of yet.
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Re: Cactus Grafting Techniques Thread [Re: modern.shaman]
#17562088 - 01/17/13 12:03 PM (11 years, 13 days ago) |
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*edited, not allowed*
hopefully i get to start soon!
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modern.shaman
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1 simple tweak to grafts that I don't see is slanted grafts. This is a basically a flat cut but cut at an angle to expose a larger vascular ring. The reason you would choose a slanted graft over a common flat graft would be if the vascular ring on the stock is not large enough for you to offset without the scion not being able to stay on.

Here is a crested lopho fricii on a pereskiopsis using this method. The growth on the pereskiopsis is impressive. I expected splitting on it however got splitting a pilocereus and what I believe is a Harrisia sp.?
Here is another using the flat graft method.
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