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LSD used in martial skills training
    #1724250 - 07/17/03 10:11 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Hi people!! I'm looking for info about application of LSD-25 by military organizations  :spliff: or individuals for improving combat spirit and martial arts training. Any thoughts/facts? 


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Re: LSD used in martial skills training [Re: greeb]
    #1724275 - 07/17/03 10:40 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

LSD-25 can be used to treat alcoholics and depression. i dont know much more than that. i dont think it could help improve combat spirit though. you might want to try anyway


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Re: LSD used in martial skills training [Re: greeb]
    #1724277 - 07/17/03 10:40 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I downloaded some videos about the U.S. and British Gov. giving it to soldiers to see if it could disable the enemy. It seemed to work, except they could find no way to drop a few million hits from the air and get the dosage right. After about 1.5 hrs. into it, the soldiers were pretty usless :crazy:
I think they gave them 300 mics or so.

If you would like I could upload 'em to a free host and you could download them. Ones 4.5mb and the other is 14mb.  (I've got nothin better to do!)


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Re: LSD used in martial skills training [Re: MrMaddHatter]
    #1724278 - 07/17/03 10:41 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I wanna see that


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Re: LSD used in martial skills training [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #1724280 - 07/17/03 10:43 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

search for "LSD Space Cadet" on kazaa


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Re: LSD used in martial skills training [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #1724281 - 07/17/03 10:44 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

i saw that. it is pretty good. funny stuff. of course you cant fight while on LSD but maybe it could be used to have better intuition on the battlefield or something like that but probably not


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Re: LSD used in martial skills training [Re: crazycanadian]
    #1724284 - 07/17/03 10:46 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Yea maybe if you were behind enemy lines doin all the planin and thinkin. But even then you'd be like "lets just all be friends, man" :grin: 


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Re: LSD used in martial skills training [Re: MrMaddHatter]
    #1724290 - 07/17/03 10:49 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

dunno if you've ever seen Apocalypse Now but that one dude in the movie eats some acid right before they go into an area where theres shit blowing up and machine gun fire. He's carrying a puppy around during all this craziness too.


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Re: LSD used in martial skills training [Re: Eightball]
    #1724295 - 07/17/03 10:51 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

:lol: 


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Re: LSD used in martial skills training [Re: MrMaddHatter]
    #1724303 - 07/17/03 10:56 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

i dont remember that part. but that was a good movie indeed. i just watched full metal jacket last night. good movie. i like joker because he hasa helmet that says born to kill and he is wearing a peace symbol. he says it is to suggest the duality of man. pretty cool


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Re: LSD used in martial skills training [Re: crazycanadian]
    #1724543 - 07/17/03 12:55 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Acid isnt like PCP, I dont think. I dont believe it will make you more aggressive...in fact I think it will achieve the opposite hehe. But, it probably would make you more aware of things on a physical and spiritual level if you trained in a peaceful art (Aikido?) with LSD. The best way to do any real physical combat is with a 100% sober mind :P


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Re: LSD used in martial skills training [Re: psyka]
    #1724559 - 07/17/03 01:05 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

hmm..how can LSD be used to treat alchoholics...? thats interesting.


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Re: LSD used in martial skills training [Re: DellComputers]
    #1724560 - 07/17/03 01:09 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

you can fight under the influence of alcohol.
i am not exactly sure on how it works but i read somewhere that it does help cure alcoholism. probably by giving you something better that you want instead of alcohol. lol


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Re: LSD used in martial skills training [Re: greeb]
    #1724565 - 07/17/03 01:11 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I practice Ninjitzu while on mushrooms every now and then, I have not tried LSD yet, but I think I would have to start practicing before dosing so I would enter the trip with that mind set. When I practice on mush, I can really focus on my energy perfecting my form. Sometimes I practice for 4 or 5 hours when on mush just because I feel so renewed afterward's. As far as fighting on mushrooms, I have been in a few bar fights and I noticed that everything almost went like matrix vision. Not that my point of view paned around the room, but I was aware of everything around me and I could almost tell my opponent's next move, be it a punch or a kick. I encourage anybody who practices martial arts of any kind to try it while shrooming.


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Re: LSD used in martial skills training [Re: FlusH]
    #1724641 - 07/17/03 01:53 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting. Would like to see some studies on shrooms and intuition
and reaction.


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Re: LSD used in martial skills training [Re: DellComputers]
    #1724646 - 07/17/03 01:56 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I think Leary did the studies with alcoholism and LSD. I got a book with it in it somewhere


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Re: LSD used in martial skills training [Re: MrMaddHatter]
    #1724989 - 07/17/03 04:37 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

A Clinical Study of LSD Treatment in Alcoholism, by Arnold Ludwig, MD; Jerome Levine, MD; Louis Stark; Robert Lazar
American Journal of Psychiatry, Vol 126, July 1, 1969, 59-69
(Hardcopy)

LSD in the Treatment of Alcoholism, by F. Gordon Johnson, MB, BS
American Journal of Psychiatry, Vol 126, Oct 4, 1969, 481-487
(Hardcopy)

Erowid lists these two as books that discuss alcoholism and LSD.  Also, if you've ever tripped hard you're probably familiar with the feeling of never wanting to touch another drug :wink:


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Re: LSD used in martial skills training [Re: Cherk]
    #1725002 - 07/17/03 04:44 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Cool thanx for the ref.!


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Re: LSD used in martial skills training [Re: MrMaddHatter]
    #1725190 - 07/17/03 05:36 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

No problem :smile:


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Re: LSD used in martial skills training [Re: MrMaddHatter]
    #1725716 - 07/17/03 08:18 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Yea maybe if you were behind enemy lines doin all the planin and thinkin. But even then you'd be like "lets just all be friends, man" :grin: 



Exactly.  You definitely don't want ANYONE in the military doing acid, cuz then they'll see how much bullshit war is.


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