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Seekingtruth
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How long to freeze naphtha?
#17213395 - 11/13/12 03:44 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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I checked my jar this morning. It had been in the freezer for about 16 hours. There was a few little crystals that had formed on the side of the glass but not much. It was also kind of hard to tell though because of the frost on the glass.
The liquid itself was still very very cloudy. It has four pulls from 100 g of material in the one jar. The pulls were around 40 to 45 minutes each.
I took a box lay down some folded T-shirts, put the jar on the T-shirts and then laid another two T-shirts on top of the jar for Padding. I sealed the box shut with duct tape and put don't open till Christmas on the box. This is for stealth since I'm a family man and everybody uses the freezer quite often. It is dear season you know?
Do you think it's possible that since I did Such long pulls and have so many pulls in one jar and wrapped it up like that it may take a few days to percipitate everything out?
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Seekingtruth
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Re: How long to freeze naphtha? [Re: Seekingtruth]
#17213417 - 11/13/12 03:49 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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I should also say that I used q 21s tek number two
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Re: How long to freeze naphtha? [Re: Seekingtruth]
#17213480 - 11/13/12 04:02 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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ahh man, when i ran into freezer problems and started asking shroomery it was the most frustrating things imaginable. everyone that gave me an answer offered little or no help and made me more irritated than when i first made the thread.
how much naptha is it approximately? in mL?
if its more than a couple hundred i would try either evaporating some and then refreezing, or i would try using more than one jar to lessen the volume of naptha
ive always been under the assumption that if my naptha becomes very cloudy ive done all steps of the tek correctly and the freezer/glass container is where the problem lies. Maybe the shirts are preventing it from getting cold enough?
16 hours should be long enough, also check to make sure you have your freezer on its coldest possible setting
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thissongis
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To be honest if your naptha isnt already covered in crystals after 6 hours you probably didnt pull much dmt through, or you dont have it cold enough. You did say its still cloudy which could mean its just not cold enough. I usually give it a full 24 hours and extract, but I have pulled 400mgs after just 6-7 hours. I found out with stb, you want to make sure to find a sweet spot with the weight/volume of all of the ingredients. I tend to put a little more NaOH than said just to make sure it all transfers over to the solvent. I dont know shit about chemistry so Im sure I could be very wrong here, its just worked out better for me.
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Re: How long to freeze naphtha? [Re: thissongis]
#17213617 - 11/13/12 04:27 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry to derail the thread, but is it really necessary to freeze precipitate in the first place to get smokable freebase?
I have seen teks which do not call for it, only evaporation at room temperature.
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Seekingtruth
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Honestly, u would think evaporation would work. I don't see why it wouldn't.
Thissongis- I used like with q21 tek 2
Johnnytalot- I have the freezer at the coldest setting possible. I have approx 400-450 mL naphtha in a quart wide mouth jar. The juice is cloudy as fuck. I get decent help on DMT, I just have been having problems getting replies on trip reports. I don't know how to gauge my trips...lol
I'm hoping it might be the shirts as mentioned before.
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Seekingtruth
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Re: How long to freeze naphtha? [Re: Seekingtruth]
#17213672 - 11/13/12 04:37 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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There are five XL t shirts wrapped around it
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Edited by Seekingtruth (11/13/12 05:01 PM)
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Re: How long to freeze naphtha? [Re: Seekingtruth]
#17213749 - 11/13/12 04:51 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah 16 hrs is plenty of time for crystals to appear. Either evap some of the naphtha or start over completely.
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Seekingtruth
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Maybe I can split the liquid into two or three jars instead?
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Re: How long to freeze naphtha? [Re: Seekingtruth]
#17213997 - 11/13/12 05:43 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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That could possibly help? Is the naphtha a good deep yellow?
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Seekingtruth
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No it's more just cloudy light light yellow, but on the tek it says its not going to be deep yellow
I appreciate all the help.
I guess I will have to just check it again in the morning
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Re: How long to freeze naphtha? [Re: Seekingtruth]
#17214074 - 11/13/12 06:00 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crystals in my sig are from an evap at room temperature. If you've got too much naptha then the stuff won't ever precipitate at freezer temperature.
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Seekingtruth
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Re: How long to freeze naphtha? [Re: jellyfish]
#17214114 - 11/13/12 06:07 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree with what u say, but don't have the experience to know why .... Lol
Please learn me!
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Re: How long to freeze naphtha? [Re: jellyfish]
#17214147 - 11/13/12 06:13 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
jellyfish said: Crystals in my sig are from an evap at room temperature. If you've got too much naptha then the stuff won't ever precipitate at freezer temperature.

Those are incredible.
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Seekingtruth
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Agreed!
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Re: How long to freeze naphtha? [Re: Seekingtruth]
#17214215 - 11/13/12 06:25 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm looking for a jellyfish room temp tek. Lol
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Re: How long to freeze naphtha? [Re: Seekingtruth]
#17214487 - 11/13/12 07:09 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Try to evap to a low liquid, high saturation point and put back in the freezer. Which means put it in a well ventilated area where the solvent can reduce and try again.
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Seekingtruth
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Re: How long to freeze naphtha? [Re: thissongis]
#17214689 - 11/13/12 07:36 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Would I leave the lid on the jar until it reaches room temp, then open the lid? I don't want any water in the mix.
And can I evap in a window seal if its room temp inside and 33-50 degrees outside?
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Seekingtruth
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Re: How long to freeze naphtha? [Re: Seekingtruth]
#17217059 - 11/14/12 05:53 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for ur help! It just needed more time in the freezer. Check out the thread I made with pics
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17217056
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