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Haylea-D
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My first try, hoping they're not contaminated
#17213964 - 11/13/12 05:38 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alright, so this is my first time trying to grow. I followed the BRF PF tek, and thought my product looked exactly like all of the pictures and videos that I had seen. I created two batches, both of which I have been carefully recording; the first batch was inoculated with the Golden Teacher strain. The cakes seem to be colonizing fast, this is day 9. However, I'm 99% sure most; if not all of the 10 cakes are contaminated... sigh. I was hoping for some professional opinions?
 sorry about the pictures, I understand if you can't tell. From what I've seen from other posts with the same topic as mine, the people here are just fabulous at telling regardless!! The second batch I did, was done with Lipa Yai- there doesn't seem to be ANY sign of contamination, but they're not really making much progress.
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Re: My first try, hoping they're not contaminated [Re: Haylea-D]
#17214002 - 11/13/12 05:44 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Welcome to the Shroomery Haylea! You surely need to be here, because all of those cakes are contaminated with Cobweb mold, and the first cake and a few others with Baccilus bacteria, possible trichoderma on pic 10 and others. They are no good and you will have to start over. This is not as bad a thing as you think, you learned, you gained experience and we are here to help you succeed the next grow. Start asking questions.. now 
keep your head up!

Edit: pics 14,15, 17, and 18 look like they are healthy, but most likely will contam eventually since your sterile procedure doesn't appear to be working.
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Edited by Tmethyl (11/13/12 06:39 PM)
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Re: My first try, hoping they're not contaminated [Re: Tmethyl]
#17214012 - 11/13/12 05:45 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks!
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Re: My first try, hoping they're not contaminated [Re: Haylea-D]
#17214277 - 11/13/12 06:34 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would start with jars instead of foil tops.
and here is a good link PF -TEK Let's Grow Mushrooms!
you might better success.
welcome!
RATED! 
Edited by TheApprentice (11/13/12 06:36 PM)
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Re: My first try, hoping they're not contaminated [Re: TheApprentice]
#17214734 - 11/13/12 07:41 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Definitely check out the link that TheApprentice provided, it's excellent.
Other than that welcome to the forum!
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Re: My first try, hoping they're not contaminated [Re: wire5]
#17230593 - 11/16/12 04:54 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thank you very much to all of you! I am incredibly dissapointed that they didn't work out- however, like you said; it was a learning experience. I do have canning jars that I was thinking of using- but they are all the normal jam sized ones? Also is there any way I could inoculate them without punching holes in the tops? like replacing the metal disc thingy with foil?? I've read that they don't need the extra layer of foil because they like to breathe. Is this true? I didn't want to remove it from these ones, because I knew some were infected and didn't want it to spread. Oh and does anyone have any good links or tips on sterilizing without a pressure cooker? I know getting one is a worthy investment but I would rather wait till next batch- I know people do have success without them!
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Re: My first try, hoping they're not contaminated [Re: Haylea-D]
#17230644 - 11/16/12 05:02 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hello again Haylea, in reference to your canning jars, they have to be wide mouth jars, which means they cannot have shoulders (this would make removing the cake impossible) it has to be one even width from the lid to the bottom, so a fully colonized cake can slide out. A brand new package of 12 widemouth 1/2 pints can be as low as $7 at Wal-mart, ace hardware and many other stores also carry them.
You cannot replace the lid with foil, the best thing to do is construct proper lids.
Please watch Brf/PF tek parts 1-4 in this link, it will answer so many of your questions (lids, sterilization without PC, etc)
www.mushroomvideos.com/
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Re: My first try, hoping they're not contaminated [Re: Tmethyl]
#17230740 - 11/16/12 05:22 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Haylea:
Watch the videos. You have learned much, so I am sure with improvement upon your technique, you will have colonized jars in your 2nd attempt.
Couple things:
1. If you can not find the proper jars in a store, order them online. Be aware that there is a 1/2 pint widemouth jar which Ball sells, but it has shoulders. I learned that the hard way- so be sure whichever 1/2 pint widemouth jars you purchase do not have have shoulders.
2. Are you a florist? Those cubes look just like little cube vases.
3. Watch the videos on the PF Tek, seriously. It is definitely NOT a requirement to use a Pressure Cooker. I sterilized my jars using two large pots with proper fitting lids. You just need to make sure you put something between the inside bottom of the pots and your jars. (use large pots- lobster pot size) Some people use the rings from spare jars, others use layers of foil, or even a small towel or clean dishrags.
4. A glovebox/still-air box is not necessary, but a clean, prepared surface is recommended. Clean and lysol your entire area you plan to work in. Shower and put on clean clothes right before inoculation. Flame sterilize the needle tip in between inoculating jars.
5. Last tip- be sure to allow your jars to cool for 6-8 hours after sterilization, before attempting inoculation. And, during sterilization using large pots, just make sure the water does not boil away (add some more if needed) and definitely make sure the water does not boil up and over into your prepared jars. The videos explaining the PF Tek will go over this, so watch them multiple times, and again once before attempting your second inoculation.
Welcome and good luck! 
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Re: My first try, hoping they're not contaminated [Re: BEETHOVEN]
#17230808 - 11/16/12 05:33 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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BEETHOVEN said: Be aware that there is a 1/2 pint widemouth jar which Ball sells, but it has shoulders. I learned that the hard way- so be sure whichever 1/2 pint widemouth jars you purchase do not have have shoulders.
He had to use the hammer and screwdriver tek to remove the cakes, and broke them all to shit. 
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BEETHOVEN said: The videos explaining the PF Tek will go over this, so watch them multiple times, and again once before attempting your second inoculation.
Watch them 13-14 times to be sure.
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Re: My first try, hoping they're not contaminated [Re: Tmethyl]
#17235632 - 11/17/12 01:15 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thank you for the links! I will be sure to watch them many, many, many, times.
Also, I'll definitely invest in proper jars- hehe I am not a florist, these are just the only thing I could find where I live- it being near Christmas all the jars were sold out! I think they're actually candle holders. =]
I am very thankful for these forums and all of your advice!!
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Re: My first try, hoping they're not contaminated [Re: Haylea-D]
#17235707 - 11/17/12 01:30 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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4. A glovebox/still-air box is not necessary, but a clean, prepared surface is recommended. Clean and lysol your entire area you plan to work in. Shower and put on clean clothes right before inoculation. Flame sterilize the needle tip in between inoculating jars. ______________________________________________________________________
BEETHOVEN a still air box is such a minimal investment and such a valuable weapon in the war against the mean green. I say spend $10 and improve your odds of success exponentially!
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Re: My first try, hoping they're not contaminated [Re: BEETHOVEN]
#17235839 - 11/17/12 02:05 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have a friend that use pyrex dishes with matching lids instead of jars with acceptable results. They cost more, but you can heat your food in them later.
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BEETHOVEN said: 4. A glovebox/still-air box is not necessary, but a clean, prepared surface is recommended. Clean and lysol your entire area you plan to work in. Shower and put on clean clothes right before inoculation. Flame sterilize the needle tip in between inoculating jars.
And don't forget to take pictures while doing so
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Re: My first try, hoping they're not contaminated [Re: Fonzee]
#17235863 - 11/17/12 02:11 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Speaking as a new friend "Every time I try to cut corners, I get bit right in the ass!"
Two sides on every coin
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Re: My first try, hoping they're not contaminated [Re: skippydude]
#17243357 - 11/18/12 08:27 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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alright! soooo, I'm curious! (If anyone's still reading this that is) I'm somewhat nervous to try this again... But I still have 3 10cc spore syringes! I only have enough vermiculite and BRF for 5 cakes and during the winter where I live, vermiculite is hard to find- can I use half of a syringe and re-cap it? Will the syringe go bad or should I just use 2 cc's per cake?? Suggestions??
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Re: My first try, hoping they're not contaminated [Re: Haylea-D]
#17243493 - 11/18/12 08:47 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Syringes have been successfully used being 10+ years old. Spores are one of the only known living organisms which can survive the conditions of outer space. Use 1cc per cake.
If you're going to try again are you purchasing a pressure cooker? Or trying to steam sterilize? If you're steam sterilizing make sure you understand the proper procedure this time.
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Re: My first try, hoping they're not contaminated [Re: Tmethyl]
#17243653 - 11/18/12 09:15 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can always make a liquid culture and stretch that syringe out 100 times. Or you could go this way just found this the other day it is from RR so you know it will work...
For those who wish to make LC for inoculation, here's a way to get 100 syringes full of inoculant in two weeks: 1) Inoculate a quart jar of rye berries or wbs with your spores. Upon full colonization, shake the jar to loosen each individual kernel. Be sure to give it the smell test to make sure it smells like fresh mushrooms. 2) PC a quart of distilled water in a jar with a filter disk or tyvek, etc. In a glovebox or in front of a flowhood, pour 2/3 of the quart jar of sterilized water into your jar of shaken grains. 3) Shake well and then pour the now mycelium rich water back into whatever was left of your jar of sterilized water. Use the jar lid to hold back the grains themselves from pouring out. You now have a full quart of highly concentrated mycelium water that can then be used as is, or diluted two or three times again, and used to fill syringes. Because the grains were shaken first, the mycelium is ripped into shreds and will be sucked through even small needles easily, although larger needles always work better for this.
Remember, mycelium grows poorly in water unless under constant stir which oxygenates it. With grains, they colonize in two weeks or less because oxygen is throughout the jar in the spaces between the kernels. RR
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Re: My first try, hoping they're not contaminated [Re: shroomsisay]
#17245490 - 11/19/12 10:04 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks again everybody!
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Re: My first try, hoping they're not contaminated [Re: shroomsisay]
#17245533 - 11/19/12 10:12 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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shroomsisay said: You can always make a liquid culture and stretch that syringe out 100 times. Or you could go this way just found this the other day it is from RR so you know it will work...
For those who wish to make LC for inoculation, here's a way to get 100 syringes full of inoculate in two weeks: 1) Inoculate a quart jar of rye berries or wbs with your spores. Upon full colonization, shake the jar to loosen each individual kernel. Be sure to give it the smell test to make sure it smells like fresh mushrooms. 2) PC a quart of distilled water in a jar with a filter disk or tyvek, etc. In a glovebox or in front of a flowhood, pour 2/3 of the quart jar of sterilized water into your jar of shaken grains. 3) Shake well and then pour the now mycelium rich water back into whatever was left of your jar of sterilized water. Use the jar lid to hold back the grains themselves from pouring out. You now have a full quart of highly concentrated mycelium water that can then be used as is, or diluted two or three times again, and used to fill syringes. Because the grains were shaken first, the mycelium is ripped into shreds and will be sucked through even small needles easily, although larger needles always work better for this.
Remember, mycelium grows poorly in water unless under constant stir which oxygenates it. With grains, they colonize in two weeks or less because oxygen is throughout the jar in the spaces between the kernels. RR
I read somewhere RR said he doesn't use this method any longer because grain to grain is faster. I personally don't think it is a good idea to expand this type of LC. Use as is. Contam risk is high once the myc has touched grain. Sniffing doesn't always catch contams. Do agar transfers and expand once it is clean.
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I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Haylea-D]
#17245626 - 11/19/12 10:29 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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My first attempt was with jars and they all got contaminated with red lipstick mold, so my second attempt was with a home made grow box of brown rice flower and vermiculite as a sub in a ziplock versa glass container. The container was too big, but I had a good chunk so I figured hey, why not? Well I have mushrooms growing but they're gray. It was supposed to be Golden Teacher's. Any ideas on what's happening? My profile picture is where it is at.
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Scarousel]
#17245631 - 11/19/12 10:30 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here's the pic
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Tmethyl
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Scarousel]
#17245656 - 11/19/12 10:33 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Those are not cube sis. Do not consume them. Looks very bad toss it.
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Tmethyl]
#17245826 - 11/19/12 11:06 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks. They aren't like anything I've seen online or ever.
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Scarousel]
#17246248 - 11/19/12 12:33 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Im gonna take a wild guess and say u got the syringe from spores101...those are oyster mushrooms, and they look like they aborted..you got screwed...so did a lot of people.
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Edited by PussyFart (11/19/12 12:33 PM)
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: PussyFart]
#17246748 - 11/19/12 02:08 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I got them from sporestore. I considered that they were oyster mushrooms, but oyster mushrooms have more of an inverted look as these still have caps.
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Scarousel]
#17246787 - 11/19/12 02:14 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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For what it is worth, they don't look oyster pins to me, either.
 
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: skippydude]
#17246846 - 11/19/12 02:26 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm gonna say blue oysters.
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: PussyFart]
#17247020 - 11/19/12 03:00 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said: I'm gonna say blue oysters.
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: skippydude]
#17248556 - 11/19/12 07:30 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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looks like most of your jars succumbed to wet spot bacteria from having too wet of a substrate. jars 15 and 17 lok like they might pull through tho.
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: bigbigbilly]
#17248809 - 11/19/12 08:02 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hello Haylea! I'm originally from Newfoundland! All hail Canada -- home of the greatest rock band ever, Rush!! (Whom I got to see last week in San Jose for perhaps my 15th Rush concert.) For that, I thank you, Canada!! But I digress...Welcome! it's great to see another GIRL myco-fiend on here!! Congratulations to you for getting your feet wet in the hobby. In time, I promise it will consume you -- LONG before you consume IT!!
Here are the type of jars you need.
You can usually have them shipped free to your local hardware store...
I strongly recommend the PF Tek for people just getting started. It's totally easy. You've got lots of spores left. It's hard to get it wrong if you really pay attention to sterility. Pay attention to the details and don't cut any corners. Ingredients are few and cheap.
Also keep your eye out for a cheap pressure cooker. It will help.
Ask lots of questions.
I can't wait to see your colonizing jars shortly. Good luck!
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Scarousel]
#17250385 - 11/20/12 01:02 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not oysters but not what you want either. I've seen this only a couple of times before, but its not clear what the species is. Don't eat it. It is hard to find the old posts with the same or similar problems, but here are a couple.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8794786/fpart/1/vc/1
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5082646/fpart/all/vc/1
This one is only similar and probably a different species.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8485974#8485974
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Workman]
#17250410 - 11/20/12 01:12 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: PussyFart]
#17251458 - 11/20/12 10:00 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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They aren't oysters. Notice that the stem and cap are the same color. Blue oysters only have pigment on the cap.
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Workman]
#17251658 - 11/20/12 10:47 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Weird...
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: PussyFart]
#17251871 - 11/20/12 11:27 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the responses guys. It keeps growing and I'm time lapsing it just out of myco curiosity, but I've got some b+ coming together nicely in a tub from the same vendor of the spores. Not sure what it is, but I'm thinking it's Alien haha. Thanks for the link Workman, it seems to be very similar, but just different in color.
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Scarousel]
#17252176 - 11/20/12 12:09 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thats cool looking, looks like Laccaria species, but that could be really odd im guessing oyster mushrooms. My blue oysters looked like that when i didnt give them enough humidity and too much light, also they are clustered ect. everything points to oyster mushrooms imo.
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Joust]
#17276155 - 11/24/12 10:30 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey everyone. Here is the mushroom strain all grown up. Crazy looking caps. Any ideas as to what it might be still?
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Scarousel]
#17276167 - 11/24/12 10:31 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Scarousel]
#17276193 - 11/24/12 10:36 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Awesome!
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: PussyFart]
#17276285 - 11/24/12 10:53 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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yea i wouldnt eat those bad boys ...toss em start fresh
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: tokeweed420]
#17276392 - 11/24/12 11:13 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks a little like a black trumpet.
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: skippydude]
#17276945 - 11/25/12 01:10 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not going to eat them, I just think they're cool. I'm done ordering from sporestore. I ordered from lilshop and am anxiously awaiting my Golden Teacher, Combodian's and EQ's!!! I have 48 jars all sterilized and ready to go. Though half are rye berry jars and the other half brown rice flour and vermiculite. Curious to see the difference.
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Scarousel]
#17277172 - 11/25/12 02:21 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: PussyFart]
#17277628 - 11/25/12 08:05 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:

I believe he's saying you need to take the vendor's name out of your post. Vendors sell their spores for microscopy use only. If you decide to feloniously abuse them, it's all on you and you shouldn't drag them under the bus with you.
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
#17282465 - 11/25/12 11:56 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I apologize. I will refrain from doing so in the future.
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Scarousel]
#17286667 - 11/26/12 07:11 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alright soooo, I havent disposed of the contams yet (I work all day and havent had time) yeah I know Ive been cultivating mould BUT I have been reading much into what I should do better next time and I stumbled on a thread by Tmethyl "called How it should look - A GUIDE FOR NEW CULTIVATORS" and found some pictures on there these ones:(by Revolutionctm, Tmethyl, and FrankHorrigan)
 [url=https://files.shroomery.org/files/12-4 /398178747-2012-11-26_17.55.26.jpg] These are the latest pictures of my attempted and decidedly failed grow... can I ask what the difference between these pictures are? they look the same to my untrained eye!
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Thanks so much for all the help by the way
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Haylea-D]
#17286698 - 11/26/12 07:20 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Those pictures are somewhat blurry but they do show healthy rhizomorphic mycelium, they appear to be keepers from that angle. There could of course be contamination in other areas.
Pics 3 and 5 are especially revealing and beautiful.
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Haylea-D]
#17286945 - 11/26/12 08:12 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hoorah!!! You have made my week! Thanks and I will keep updates
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Haylea-D]
#17357559 - 12/08/12 08:43 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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Howdy again, not so sure if anyone is still around in this thread. Kind of hoping Tmethyl is still lurking around, (you're SO very helpful) All of my cakes that have decided they are going to grow, are 100% covered in mycelium, and have been for AT LEAST a week, I haven't seen ANY pins, at all....I seem to recall reading somewhere something about putting them in the fridge before birthing? Whats that all about? I have completely rid my incubator of all infected cakes and wiped the inside with lysol. but my "healthy" (I hope) cakes are very moist inside of their jars.... Should I take the top layer of tinfoil off? or what? I'm very stuck and relying heavily on these boards for help, and sooooo very thankful for all the help I have received!
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Haylea-D]
#17357776 - 12/08/12 09:26 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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Haylea-D said: Howdy again, not so sure if anyone is still around in this thread. Kind of hoping Tmethyl is still lurking around, (you're SO very helpful) All of my cakes that have decided they are going to grow, are 100% covered in mycelium, and have been for AT LEAST a week, I haven't seen ANY pins, at all....I seem to recall reading somewhere something about putting them in the fridge before birthing? Whats that all about? I have completely rid my incubator of all infected cakes and wiped the inside with lysol. but my "healthy" (I hope) cakes are very moist inside of their jars.... Should I take the top layer of tinfoil off? or what? I'm very stuck and relying heavily on these boards for help, and sooooo very thankful for all the help I have received!
If they've been fully colonized for a week, you're ready to birth them. Take them out of the jars, rinse off the layer of verm, soak them for 24 hours, roll them in verm, and put them in the SGFC in small squares of foil.
Do NOT put them in the fridge. That's very old info. Cold will not cause them to fruit, and it will shock the myc, causing them to delay fruiting.
If you're talking about the foil you put over the lids before sterilizing them, it should have come off as soon as they came out of the PC/steamer. Don't worry about it now, but in the future, take it off as soon as they're sterile and they'll colonize faster.
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
#17358045 - 12/08/12 10:19 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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Trippy_Smurf said: If they've been fully colonized for a week, you're ready to birth them. Take them out of the jars, rinse off the layer of verm, soak them for 24 hours, roll them in verm, and put them in the SGFC in small squares of foil.
This ^ You appear to be ready for fruiting Haylea.
Cold shocking does work for certain cold loving species such as Psilocybin Cyanesens, but not Psilocybe Cubensis. Definitely don't do it.
Also take a moment to read through my link in sig, it will help out a lot more than before, it's been updated heavily. "How it should and shouldn't look" Keep us updated.
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Tmethyl]
#17394033 - 12/14/12 08:35 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hello AGAIN everybody! I can't begin to describe the feelings I am having right now! my cakes have begun to pin!! Like I mentioned previously, my man and I work nearly all the time and are never really home together, so we haven't had time to birth them as of yet, because this is a project we are doing together, we want to do things like this together! ha ha anyway! Here's some AMAZING pictures!
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Haylea-D]
#17394037 - 12/14/12 08:36 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: I'm new here on shroomery and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out what's happening. [Re: Tmethyl]
#17398906 - 12/15/12 09:30 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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Awesome Haylea! Congratulations on your pinnage!! Those pins can often survive the dunk and roll if you gently firm some vermiculite around them (rather than smashing them into the verm). Sometimes those mature into the nicest fruits!
Do keep us posted!
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