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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: How safe is it to order 4-aco-dmt online [Re: Tsukasa]
#17218593 - 11/14/12 01:12 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well then all he has to do is have him and his attorney demand that it be retested and keep the recent from where he got it
That takes a lot of money, and the defendant has to pay for it. Only rich people can get off this way.
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Your proof was that false positives are very common but how many of them take a stupid as plea or demand it be retested.
Very few. $10,000 later, they might be able to get the charges dismissed. You don't get the $10,000 back.
The retest could easily and falsely come to the same conclusion that the first test did.
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Tsukasa
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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Well then all he has to do is have him and his attorney demand that it be retested and keep the recent from where he got it
That takes a lot of money, and the defendant has to pay for it. Only rich people can get off this way.
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Your proof was that false positives are very common but how many of them take a stupid as plea or demand it be retested.
Very few. $10,000 later, they might be able to get the charges dismissed. You don't get the $10,000 back.
Yea well neither of us know how much money he has. May be he has 10 grand to throw away. Plus if that does happen to him he can sue the guys just like the Lee person did, but she won 2 years later.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: How safe is it to order 4-aco-dmt online [Re: Tsukasa]
#17218614 - 11/14/12 01:17 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Even if he has 10 grand to throw away, I don't think that criminal defense is the best way to use these funds.
Moral of the story is that unless you have $10k that you don't need, don't carry around random white powders.
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Quit arguing with some "try hard kid" Alan... He apparently knows everything... Its a waste of good time...
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: How safe is it to order 4-aco-dmt online [Re: total] 2
#17218752 - 11/14/12 01:38 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'll argue with him until he understands. That is the reason I argue...
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Perfectly good waste of money too... Retaining a lawyer is $$$... Specially when your faced with charges like coke...
Thats all good $$$ that can be spent on more drugs...
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dokunai
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Alan Rockefeller said: I'll argue with him until he understands. That is the reason I argue...
The hard headed need to feel it to believe it. Don't waste your time Alan.
So yeah, I just got fired today. Why? My company decided to do background checks on all employees. I had an arrest for a DUI that DID NOT result in prosecution, but the city attorney demanded a 'drug condition' BEFORE PRETRIAL on the charge because I blew less than .08 and they don't like to lose. My employer reasoned that the police would never ask for such a condition unless I did something really wrong at some point, and someone who putatively once did something really wrong doesn't need a career or to earn a living.
But I digress. TriGeo, try to outlawyer the lawyers, and be sure to become a part of the system. I'd say there's no way to win once you're in, but you obviously know better
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Re: How safe is it to order 4-aco-dmt online [Re: dokunai]
#17219693 - 11/14/12 04:30 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: How safe is it to order 4-aco-dmt online [Re: total]
#17221251 - 11/14/12 08:40 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for the info and by the way I dont have 10 thousand to spend and I do know how all the legal stuff works out. I was kinda just looking to hear from anyone who has ordered it recently and if they had problems.
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Wow, this thread went to shit fast. 
To the OP: I will be the "other" voice here. I will give you a few facts that I'm aware of, which provide a kind of counter-balance to Alan and Rail's "go for it," responses.
1- The DEA has been cracking down particularly hard on research chemicals for a little while now. The last year or so has been particularly bad for "the scene." It is my experience that some members do not realize just how bad it has gotten. Even some typically pretty informed members.
2-What I mean by the above, partly, is that more and more international shipments are getting stopped. A lot of foreign vendors will presently not ship to the US for this reason.
3-They are also arresting people under the analog act for stuff that people believed they could not be arrested for, and in cases where there is NO human-consumption-clause violation. I have seen the DEA claim that UR-144 is an analog of JWH-018, and that PENTYLONE is an analog of METHYLONE (something which anyone who has used both can tell you is perfectly laughable). They have called 25i-NBOMe an analog of LSD. To be fair that last example comes from the press, but I could have sworn it was supposedly quoted from the DEA. IMO they are not playing fair, and I would personally not roll the dice and expect them to.
4- Fortunately, I have NEVER heard of anyone getting arrested for the chem you mention, in the way of a confiscation/seizure. Were I thinking about it, that would not entirely make me feel safe considering point 3 above, but at least it's something....
5- I will say that IMO mail from canada is likely to be a little less suspect than stuff coming from Asia or some of the other "research chemical" hubs. That is providing it is not a well-known supplier, and/or the shipper doesn't use a well-known (to inspectors) company name or return address.
Good luck, whatever you choose to do.
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Alan Rockefeller said: I'll argue with him until he understands. That is the reason I argue...
This was awesome. 

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Re: How safe is it to order 4-aco-dmt online [Re: CidneyIndole]
#17287420 - 11/26/12 09:45 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've received some from my personal vendor before no problem.
Check your local laws and regulations, as well as safeorscam! If they're a trusted vendor, go for it! They come very discreetly packaged normally
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