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Re: Does WEED cure breathing problems (Asthma) ? [Re: Visionary Tools]
#17194059 - 11/10/12 03:48 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edibles supposedly help treat asthma. Thinking smoking would help is just foolish though.
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Re: Does WEED cure breathing problems (Asthma) ? [Re: Visionary Tools]
#17194061 - 11/10/12 03:49 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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What about hemp oil ?
Fill it up into a nasal spray bottle and shoot it up ? (Stretch it with some water before)
couldnt find a hemp nasal spray on the market
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Re: Does WEED cure breathing problems (Asthma) ? [Re: Kupo]
#17194067 - 11/10/12 03:54 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Zarotti said: Can weed really help getting your slime throat clear -permenent ?
No, but it may give some relief. Like others have said: don't smoke though. Vape if you want to try it. Smoking will still give momentary relief, but it tends to worsen the problem when the effects wear off, so you risk getting caught in a vicious cycle.
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How many times do you have to smoke it to keep your throat clear ?
I don't know; you'd have to try. But my guess is that two to three times a day would probably do the trick. Which of course leads to the question if this form of self-medication is compatible with your professional duties.
For this reason, I would recommend looking into what 'evil' big pharma has to offer. The usual treatment where I live is a combination of formoterol and budesonide. The former opens up the airway, making it easier to expel phlegm. The second is an anti-inflammatory agent that helps to keep the permanent inflammation (that is what asthma is, in the end) at bay. It is at least as effective as cannabis, but it doesn't bring the side effects of cannabis (you don't get stoned).
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Can you use hemp oil instead of smoking weed ?
No; hemp oil does not contain the active compounds that cannabis does.
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kr0nik0 said: THC in general is an anti-inflammatory. What I'm referring to is the difference between indica/sativa. Sativa dominant strains tend to have better anti-inflammatory properties which comes not from THC or CBD, but from one of the 100's of other cannabinoid compounds that enter your system when you smoke.
Really? I didn't know that. The only 'anti inflammatory' thing about cannabis cultivated in a controlled environment specifically for medical purposes is that they try to keep fungal contamination at bay (even more than regular growers), so that patients with a compromised immune system don't have to fear fungal infections as a result of their medical cannabis use. That is the gist I got from reading about the work of a medical mj grower here in the Netherlands. He's the only licensed grower in the country, he's been in business for over a decade and supplies the country's pharmacies with medical grade cannabis. The strain is surprisingly traditional: Northern lights. That's exactly what makes me a tad skeptical about the 'anti-inflammatory strain' story.
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Mafeki said: Well, you know it might be a allergy issue, isn't asthma just an allergy problem?
Athma is a permanent inflammation, that can indeed be triggered/worsened by an allergy issue. But that's not the whole story.
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Kupo said: Your environment and diet are the first two things I would look at to determine where your issue is coming from.
I would primarily look at genetics. Respiratory issues such as asthma and chronic sinusitis often have a huge genetic component. Second thing is smoking, which is obviously downright catastrophic for people with respiratory problems. Still, living environment (other than tobacco smoke) is a big factor too; see the note above concerning allergies triggering/worsening asthma. Diet, I'm not so sure about. I never noticed specific asthma-triggers in my diet. I do know that some foods help clearing things up, such as chilies and oranges.
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Re: Does WEED cure breathing problems (Asthma) ? [Re: koraks]
#17195889 - 11/10/12 01:51 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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There is a diet called the Abascal Way, focuses on Anti-Inflammatory foods.
Diet is a huge trigger for me, but I'm an allergic kinda guy.
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Re: Does WEED cure breathing problems (Asthma) ? [Re: Kupo]
#17196307 - 11/10/12 04:06 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kupo said: There is a diet called the Abascal Way, focuses on Anti-Inflammatory foods.
Diet is a huge trigger for me, but I'm an allergic kinda guy.
Wouldn't it just be more helpful to get one of those allergy tests done instead of avoiding food unnecessarily?
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Re: Does WEED cure breathing problems (Asthma) ? [Re: Mafeki]
#17196693 - 11/10/12 05:41 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't avoid food unnecessarily. I've been around for 25 years I think I know what works for me
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Re: Does WEED cure breathing problems (Asthma) ? [Re: Zarotti]
#17199314 - 11/11/12 04:53 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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My husband has had chronic and at times very severe asthma his entire life. I got tired of listening to Western doctors laugh at him when he asked about alternatives to dealing with / curing asthma so I started doing my own research. Initially I found 14 people who cured asthma (and with the encouragement of friends I put what I learned from them in a book) and I have since found more.
There were a lot of different methods people used to cure themselves -- diet changes, dealing with emotional issues, homeopathy, alternative therapies, acupuncture, etc. The approaches they used to cure themselves varied but one general commonality among them was diet and I saw this to be true with my husband as well. The diet can seem a bit overwhelming at first but I can't tell you the remarkable difference in my husband. If you are interested you can learn more here -- http://asthmacurestories.com/asthma-diet/. The main things that really helped him was:
No dairy No wheat (remember this is not just bread but breakfast cereals, much processed/packaged foods, pasta etc) No sugar No soy Cooking only with coconut oil, vegetable broth or water Drinking a LOT of water (at least 2 liters / day and more if possible) Little alcohol
In all of the people I have spoken with I have not talked to anyone who reduced asthma symptoms or cured asthma with pot. It is very important to understand that asthma is simply inflammation in your body. My guess is that smoking pot could possibly calm that inflammation but in the end that solution also has other impacts on your life. I think you would be really pleased with the results if you changed your diet or did some research into some of the other therapies available. Happy to answer any additional questions you may have.
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Re: Does WEED cure breathing problems (Asthma) ? [Re: Mafeki]
#17199320 - 11/11/12 04:56 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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My understanding in tallking to doctors about the relationship between dairy and asthma is that dairy forms mucus in your body and the mucus gets in your lungs and makes it more difficult to breathe.
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Re: Does WEED cure breathing problems (Asthma) ? [Re: Mafeki]
#17199322 - 11/11/12 04:57 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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You could always try almond milk or rice milk. Just stay away from soy milk b/c soy can have an inflammatory effect on the body.
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Re: Does WEED cure breathing problems (Asthma) ? [Re: deliciousday]
#17199330 - 11/11/12 04:59 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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I got tired of listening to Western doctors laugh at him when he asked about alternatives to dealing with / curing asthma so I started doing my own research.
What aspect of the normal treatment (e.g. combined formoterol/budesonide) didn't work for your husband?
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Re: Does WEED cure breathing problems (Asthma) ? [Re: deliciousday]
#17200268 - 11/11/12 09:43 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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deliciousday said: You could always try almond milk or rice milk. Just stay away from soy milk b/c soy can have an inflammatory effect on the body.
Almond milk is so gooood i drink like a whole carton of that stuff a day just because it tastes so good
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Re: Does WEED cure breathing problems (Asthma) ? [Re: goldcaphunter]
#17200990 - 11/11/12 01:02 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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So weed does NOT cure breathing problems
but what can cure breathing problems permanent ?
Doctors want to give you nasal spray but they have several negative effects like your face gets puffy,dry nose,permanent damage...
Any natural cures ?
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Re: Does WEED cure breathing problems (Asthma) ? [Re: Zarotti]
#17201057 - 11/11/12 01:23 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Zarotti said: but what can cure breathing problems permanent ?
A miracle.
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Doctors want to give you nasal spray but they have several negative effects like your face gets puffy,dry nose,permanent damage...
Nasal spray won't cure asthma, but many asthma patients also have problems with their upper airways, so alright. I'm not sure what sort of nasal spray you're referring to when mentioning those side effects. I've been using fluticasone proprionate for years now and all I get is the positive effects: better flow, less inflammation, better sense of smell due to nothing being permanently blocked anymore.
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Any natural cures ?
Nothing as effective as the concoctions of 'evil' pharma, in my experience.
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Re: Does WEED cure breathing problems (Asthma) ? [Re: Zarotti]
#17202050 - 11/11/12 04:48 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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My mom smoked weed for asthma but I think it makes mine worse. Gives me a hack I don't need.
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Re: Does WEED cure breathing problems (Asthma) ? [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#17202071 - 11/11/12 04:53 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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breathing issues shouldn't be a issue, I mean if you have problems breathing they should be able to just put a metal pipe in that shit and keep your air holes open. but they don't want to cure shit 'cause then they can't make money off the temporary solutions, CONSPIRACY!
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Re: Does WEED cure breathing problems (Asthma) ? [Re: Mafeki]
#17202089 - 11/11/12 04:57 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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That doesn't work because it's about your blood getting oxygenated from your lung capillaries or whatev
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Re: Does WEED cure breathing problems (Asthma) ? [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#17202119 - 11/11/12 05:04 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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apparently we got some doctors on here, start calling you PHD.TheFakeSunRa. If it's a inflammatory problem then it's because the bronculous tubes or whatever are closing.
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Re: Does WEED cure breathing problems (Asthma) ? [Re: Mafeki]
#17202261 - 11/11/12 05:30 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mafeki said: apparently we got some doctors on here, start calling you PHD.TheFakeSunRa. If it's a inflammatory problem then it's because the bronculous tubes or whatever are closing.
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Re: Does WEED cure breathing problems (Asthma) ? [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#17202267 - 11/11/12 05:31 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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You're smart!
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