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Re: 15 states start petitions to secede from the US [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #17206524 - 11/12/12 11:28 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I can't get a job to save my fuckin life. I have an advanced degree and a very nice resume. I'm sure I'm not the only one in this situation, but for people to be "doers" they gotta have the opportunity in the first place.

I'm still on medical restriction for my old job, and it's hard labor and pays the bills so I don't really care.

^ That sentiment seems not so common these days, however.

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Re: 15 states start petitions to secede from the US [Re: Adden]
    #17206531 - 11/12/12 11:29 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

What's that, hard labor, or labor in general?


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Re: 15 states start petitions to secede from the US [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #17206549 - 11/12/12 11:32 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

People who bitch about not having a job and being "too good" for something. Not willing to get their hands dirty.

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Re: 15 states start petitions to secede from the US [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #17206593 - 11/12/12 11:43 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
The doers are the takers? 

:laugh2:



Blows your mind doesn't it. 

There's nothing wrong with making a profit. There is something criminal about a company making a profit, yet only one person in that company getting the benefit from it.

How about another mind blower. 'Conservatives' have no problem with redistributing your wealth. They just want to redistribute it to the military only. Liberals want to distribute it back to everyone.

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Re: 15 states start petitions to secede from the US [Re: Lynnch]
    #17206598 - 11/12/12 11:44 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

The stupidity of the statement is what blew my mind.

Almost as dumb as your last sentence.


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Re: 15 states start petitions to secede from the US [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 3
    #17206616 - 11/12/12 11:47 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Are you ever going to talk to me or just ignore what I have to say and insult me?

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Re: 15 states start petitions to secede from the US [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #17206617 - 11/12/12 11:47 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

nobody is seceding from anything. this is just buttmad republicans putting on a show for everyone.


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Re: 15 states start petitions to secede from the US [Re: Lynnch]
    #17206628 - 11/12/12 11:49 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

If my post says re: Lynnch, it should be clear even to you that you are the one I'm talking to.

I didn't insult you, I mocked the statement.


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Re: 15 states start petitions to secede from the US [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #17206646 - 11/12/12 11:53 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

:facepalm: I am amazed at your ability to be a dick.

Try harder. At least give me something to work with beyond "thats dumb"

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Re: 15 states start petitions to secede from the US [Re: Lynnch]
    #17206653 - 11/12/12 11:54 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

God I hope Texas secceeds.

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Re: 15 states start petitions to secede from the US [Re: Lynnch]
    #17206656 - 11/12/12 11:55 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

If more effort was required, I'd give it.

You're doing it all on your own. I'd have thought that you'd have stopped kicking your own ass long ago.


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Re: 15 states start petitions to secede from the US [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 8
    #17206682 - 11/12/12 11:59 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

You've given 0 effort. You add nothing to the conversation. You simply dismiss anything that you oppose, and then declare victory. Everything you say is completely empty.

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Re: 15 states start petitions to secede from the US [Re: Lynnch]
    #17206686 - 11/12/12 12:00 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Where then is the incentive to do well, to be successful, to maybe start a business if you know off the bat that the harder I work the more money the government takes form me? While at the same time, Mr. and Mrs. Joe Blow down the street, because of their bad decisions; not mine cant get a job that pays more than minimum wage, continue to pop kids out for the additional welfare money,  but that's ok, cause they can just rely on Mr. Obama to take care of them.

It breeds complacency among other stuff. Basically you no longer get rewarded for hard work, you are now penalized all so you can take care of someone elses poor decision making. And what ends up happening is now it isnt poor decision making, its conscious decision making cause there is no need for hard work, the government.. errr.. the tax payer will now take care of you.

Welcome to the United Socialist States of America USSA!! FTW!


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Re: 15 states start petitions to secede from the US [Re: Lynnch]
    #17206694 - 11/12/12 12:01 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

If more effort was required, I'd give it.

I don't feel the need to make each reply a novel. That's another skill some lack.


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Re: 15 states start petitions to secede from the US [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #17206704 - 11/12/12 12:02 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Where then is the incentive to do well, to be successful, to maybe start a business if you know off the bat that the harder I work the more money the government takes form me? While at the same time, Mr. and Mrs. Joe Blow down the street, because of their bad decisions; not mine cant get a job that pays more than minimum wage, continue to pop kids out for the additional welfare money,  but that's ok, cause they can just rely on Mr. Obama to take care of them.

It breeds complacency among other stuff. Basically you no longer get rewarded for hard work, you are now penalized all so you can take care of someone elses poor decision making. And what ends up happening is now it isnt poor decision making, its conscious decision making cause there is no need for hard work, the government.. errr.. the tax payer will now take care of you.

Welcome to the United Socialist States of America USSA!! FTW!




:thumbup:


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Re: 15 states start petitions to secede from the US [Re: Aiko Aiko] * 3
    #17206823 - 11/12/12 12:27 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Where then is the incentive to do well, to be successful, to maybe start a business if you know off the bat that the harder I work the more money the government takes form me? While at the same time, Mr. and Mrs. Joe Blow down the street, because of their bad decisions; not mine cant get a job that pays more than minimum wage, continue to pop kids out for the additional welfare money,  but that's ok, cause they can just rely on Mr. Obama to take care of them.

It breeds complacency among other stuff. Basically you no longer get rewarded for hard work, you are now penalized all so you can take care of someone elses poor decision making. And what ends up happening is now it isnt poor decision making, its conscious decision making cause there is no need for hard work, the government.. errr.. the tax payer will now take care of you.

Welcome to the United Socialist States of America USSA!! FTW!




You are ignoring two things.
1. It is still possible to be successful. It is still possible to be so successful that paying a 90% income tax would still leave you richer than 99% of people in the world. Rich people aren't suffering.
2. Shit happens. You assume anyone on govt assistance got there by bad decisions. Thats simply not true. People born into low income struggle for no fault of their own. People go bankrupt from unpreventable illness. Some times you can do everything right and still get into trouble.

There is plenty of incentive to be successful. There is also plenty of incentive to help other people. When people are fed, there is less crime. When more people succeed in school, industry as a whole succeeds.

Look, blaming the poor is a great scapegoat strategy. But the poor can't just create jobs for themselves, it's up to the rich to let some of their wealth go to do so. There is no other way. When the rich selfishly refuse to do so, it ruins all of us.

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Re: 15 states start petitions to secede from the US [Re: Lynnch]
    #17207666 - 11/12/12 02:30 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Texas has already exceeded 25,000 signatures.

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Re: 15 states start petitions to secede from the US [Re: Ogla]
    #17207946 - 11/12/12 03:22 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I for one look forward to going to Texas or any of those states as what's putting me and a lot of my friends heading into the USA is the TSA.


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Re: 15 states start petitions to secede from the US [Re: Ogla]
    #17207953 - 11/12/12 03:23 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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losfreddy said:
Texas has already exceeded 25,000 signatures.



:highfive:

Please god for all that is holy let this play out
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Re: 15 states start petitions to secede from the US [Re: elax420] * 3
    #17209325 - 11/12/12 07:18 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

There's nothing to play out.  No one is going to secede.  These are just meaningless, stupid petitions started by nobody butthurt Obama haters.  It does not and will not amount to a hill of beans.  It doesn't even send a message- except that certain Americans have forgotten how to lose with dignity or grace, but that's not much of a surprise to anyone either.


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