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pot and shrooms in the same house????
#17200081 - 11/11/12 08:57 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your not supposed to let your clothes and stuff come in contact with other house plants when growing pot because they might get spider mites and other shit. Does any one know how this might effect growing shrooms. I'm prepared to dedicate another room of my house and sleep on my couch if I have to. Or just do a closet or some shit.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Tsukasa]
#17200088 - 11/11/12 08:59 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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I figure since shrooms are fungi do you think I would have to take extra caution to keep mold from spreading to the other crop. Molds pesky but do you think it could from my clothing.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Tsukasa] 1
#17200135 - 11/11/12 09:13 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wrong. The shrooms will be fine. Fungus is NOTHING like plants. Mushrooms have more in common with animals than plants. Mold or mildew wont affect shrooms in an FC. Consolidated cakes are basically contamination resistant.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: PEROXIDE]
#17200165 - 11/11/12 09:22 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok. Awesome.
...Could the shrooms effect the pot in any way during the budding stage since there prone to getting mold any ways. I suppose you could use humidity control and try and keep them from being to most to prevent it right. But most people growing weed don't have shrooms in the other room.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Tsukasa]
#17200318 - 11/11/12 09:58 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mushies need a 99% relative humidity to fruit, your plants will develop some sort of fungus without doubt in that RH.
IM pretty sure the mod is gonna move this and comment that this question has been asked a bazillion times, cause it has
Oh yes, and don't forget about spider mites, depending on how you are cycling your crop they are so going to fuck you, you would have a chance if you are doing a "sea of green" crop where the clones came in clean and the space was mite free to start. I would say IMHO that if you have a perpetual crop that is infected growing sh-rooms reliably in the same house is unlikely due to those little bastards
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: mycoelf]
#17200404 - 11/11/12 10:26 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm spider mite free and check the plants on the reg to catch them early so I can spray the bottom of the leaves. Shrooms need a way high humidity level compared to pot so I should just do separate rooms and have good ventilation on my weed to keep the bugs away and keep humidity down as best as I can to keep the buds from molding.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Tsukasa] 1
#17200818 - 11/11/12 12:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Grow the mushrooms in terrariums and the humidity won't impact your other crop. Colonize the mushrooms in another room though because the HID lighting is too much and will cause problems. Low level ambient room light is actually beneficial for colonizing mycelium, but MH and HPS is not. RR
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? (moved) [Re: Tsukasa]
#17200821 - 11/11/12 12:16 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Advanced Mycology.
Reason: Not an advanced mycology topic.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#17200839 - 11/11/12 12:19 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: but MH and HPS is not. RR
yep, i ignored the facts and used an Metal Halide once thinking i was killing two birds with one stone and my results were very poor.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: HundredYards]
#17200926 - 11/11/12 12:43 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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if you have a cloning room and use cfl's you can keep your colonizing jars/bags/tubs that are colonizing safely in there
ive never heard of people using mh bulbs on colonizing jars and such, why the negative reaction, to many lumens or the heat, possible reastion to the color?
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Montock]
#17200943 - 11/11/12 12:48 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've been growing cannabis for about 12 years now and have never worried about my various other houseplants. I think my dog and cat provide much greater exposure to the little pests than me in contact with my other houseplants.
Spider mites are easy to detect, and I've never had an infestation that Azmax couldn't take care of with 1-2 treatments. I've only ever had 2 infestations, so maybe that's not much to work with.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: SmokinErb]
#17201012 - 11/11/12 01:11 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the advice roger and SmokinErb. I've been keeping my crop really small because I dont want to attract attention with FLIR do you have any tips like pumping the air in to the attic or under the house. I know that they can only pick up heat but they cant see through things. I want to grow at least 12 to 15 indicas room. I'm thinking about getting seeds off line from Nirvana because I love smoking the good shit and I'm getting tired of dro.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: SmokinErb]
#17201119 - 11/11/12 01:38 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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I gave up growing med mj because of Spider mites, hate them little fuckers.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: GimpCollector]
#17201146 - 11/11/12 01:46 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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GimpCollector said: I gave up growing med mj because of Spider mites, hate them little fuckers.
Where you growing inside or outside. Growing inside if you bug proof the room it shouldn't be all that big of a problem.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: GimpCollector]
#17201173 - 11/11/12 01:53 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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A DWC system, one 400w HID and an array of CFL bulbs and you would have little worry of heat. I would figure your refrigerator puts off more heat. You could easily grow 12 plants, though that amount isn't necessary if you're growing for personal use. With proper technique, you can pull half to a full pound per plant. I would at most grow 3 plants. If you're using feminized plants, you could even start with one. The biggest problem is the smell, which can be taken care of with an easy and affordable DIY air scrubber.
It's easy enough to grow enough marijuana and shrooms for personal use in one 6x6 foot room or even a large walk in closet. Fuck devoting an entire house or multiple rooms.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: carnage11]
#17201362 - 11/11/12 02:39 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't just grow for myself I give some away to friends. Ill keep that in mind for sure. Your signature is supper bad ass. Yea in texas if a guy grows pot since every thing about pot's illegal he's like a treasure trove of cash and you get business through friends of friends buying through there friends.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Tsukasa]
#17201401 - 11/11/12 02:48 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can grow 1 plant or 50 plants under a single bulb, just depends on how big you grow them. You could grow a huge bush, or a bunch of plants in a Sea of Green. Yields will be the same either way, you just don't have to veg nearly as long with the SOG.
As far as venting, it really just depends on your set-up. If you're sing CFL's, T5's or LED's, you don't have much to worry about. Vent that anywhere you want. Just make sure they get fresh air and you're not just recirculating.
HID lighting, I usually vent mine into the attic. A small hole in the ceiling can easily be repaired with a piece of scrap drywall.
The way mine is set up, my cannabis grow area intake is ducted to my mushroom fruiting chamber (c02 enhanced air, as well as humidified air to combat winter dryness) and then vented, depending on the time of the year, into the garage or outside. In the garage in the winter to help keep temps up, and outside in the summer.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: SmokinErb]
#17201515 - 11/11/12 03:12 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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SmokinErb said: You can grow 1 plant or 50 plants under a single bulb, just depends on how big you grow them. You could grow a huge bush, or a bunch of plants in a Sea of Green. Yields will be the same either way, you just don't have to veg nearly as long with the SOG.
As far as venting, it really just depends on your set-up. If you're sing CFL's, T5's or LED's, you don't have much to worry about. Vent that anywhere you want. Just make sure they get fresh air and you're not just recirculating.
HID lighting, I usually vent mine into the attic. A small hole in the ceiling can easily be repaired with a piece of scrap drywall.
The way mine is set up, my cannabis grow area intake is ducted to my mushroom fruiting chamber (c02 enhanced air, as well as humidified air to combat winter dryness) and then vented, depending on the time of the year, into the garage or outside. In the garage in the winter to help keep temps up, and outside in the summer.
In to the garbage?? like your actual trash cans or just a pile of random shit. I have mine going in to the attic through the air vent that I removed my duct work to.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: SmokinErb]
#17201555 - 11/11/12 03:19 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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LOL garage. Where you park the cars. Didn't really clarify - I grow both in the garage. I figure the c02 from the mushrooms and the oxygen from the plants would benefit each other. I have a separate fan to blow some fresh air from outside into the garage at regular intervals.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: SmokinErb]
#17201691 - 11/11/12 03:47 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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SmokinErb said: LOL garage. Where you park the cars. Didn't really clarify - I grow both in the garage. I figure the c02 from the mushrooms and the oxygen from the plants would benefit each other. I have a separate fan to blow some fresh air from outside into the garage at regular intervals.
Oh. Thats pretty kick ass. Did you cut that wall or did you just rig a door for the fan to blow air in from out side.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Tsukasa]
#17201826 - 11/11/12 04:08 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've got a window in the garage. I have an AC mounted in it in the summer and a sheet of plywood on top of it (window opens by sliding it sideways) with holes cut for ventilation. In the winter, its just a full sheet of plywood with some holes in it.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: SmokinErb]
#17201866 - 11/11/12 04:16 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's cool. I heard that's what most people do for temperature control to. They just stick a simple window unit in the room.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: PEROXIDE]
#17325127 - 12/03/12 06:05 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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fungus gnats (Sciarid flies) have always fucked me over when growing mushrooms outdoors, and i know of a lot of people who had them in weed grows. so not mold, but a problem that can arise none the less.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: coneconington]
#17325176 - 12/03/12 06:37 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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coneconington said: fungus gnats (Sciarid flies) have always fucked me over when growing mushrooms outdoors, and i know of a lot of people who had them in weed grows. so not mold, but a problem that can arise none the less.
Those are just the average group of gnats or fruit flies you see that follow every one around and fly in your face and piss you off right.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: coneconington]
#17325179 - 12/03/12 06:40 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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coneconington said: fungus gnats (Sciarid flies) have always fucked me over when growing mushrooms outdoors, and i know of a lot of people who had them in weed grows. so not mold, but a problem that can arise none the less.
Bingo. If you are currently growing pot I assume you have a fungus gnat population. They are probably under control, and you can ignore them most of the time, but occasionally need a spray or something.
Those pot plants will supply a continuous stream of gnats trying to invade your tubs or GH. (ack, just slapped one). I hate the fuckers, and had to choose 1 or the other.
1 gnat in a tub will flutter around, dropping contams everywhere. It will burrow into the myc, lay eggs and a week later the tub is fucked as they start drilling everywhere. And that is a tub, in which you have a chance of isolation. If you use a GH you are totally fucked, they will be EVERYWHERE.
And they LOVE the fungus, so they will go straight for it, all the time.
The green is gone, but I'm working through the remnants of the flies.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: shroom_bee]
#17325203 - 12/03/12 06:57 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have a lot of pot and currently growing mushrooms with no problem. Granted I use coco with my MJ plants so no fungus gnat issue ever.
If you just have good house keeping techniques fungus gnats shouldn't be an issue.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: JumpinLow]
#17325495 - 12/03/12 08:36 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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JumpinLow said: I have a lot of pot and currently growing mushrooms with no problem. Granted I use coco with my MJ plants so no fungus gnat issue ever.
If you just have good house keeping techniques fungus gnats shouldn't be an issue.
Well, for the dirt grower it is an issue. you can't "clean" dirt, but you can get a reasonable balance going with the little bastards, using various non-poisonous organic methods. I'm unwilling to use any serious chems to wipe them out, and the MJ doesn't mind as long as the new clones don't get nailed.
Hey OP: Do you currently have gnats or not?
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: shroom_bee]
#17325513 - 12/03/12 08:41 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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JumpinLow said: I have a lot of pot and currently growing mushrooms with no problem. Granted I use coco with my MJ plants so no fungus gnat issue ever.
If you just have good house keeping techniques fungus gnats shouldn't be an issue.
Well, for the dirt grower it is an issue. you can't "clean" dirt, but you can get a reasonable balance going with the little bastards, using various non-poisonous organic methods. I'm unwilling to use any serious chems to wipe them out, and the MJ doesn't mind as long as the new clones don't get nailed.
Hey OP: Do you currently have gnats or not?
You can pasteurize dirt.... Best way would be a large pot with a lid in the stove. Do like 3 or 4 hours at 265 degrees F. You may have to rehydrate. Then grow from seed. That way no gnats/mites come in on clones. Use a hydro or hybrid system to avoid dirt. Keep your grow area clean. Put 1 micron polyester filter media on the outside of your fruiting chamber. 12 bucks for a 7 x 3 foot sheet on ebay. Just my .2
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: shroom_bee]
#17325571 - 12/03/12 08:57 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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JumpinLow said: I have a lot of pot and currently growing mushrooms with no problem. Granted I use coco with my MJ plants so no fungus gnat issue ever.
If you just have good house keeping techniques fungus gnats shouldn't be an issue.
Well, for the dirt grower it is an issue. you can't "clean" dirt, but you can get a reasonable balance going with the little bastards, using various non-poisonous organic methods. I'm unwilling to use any serious chems to wipe them out, and the MJ doesn't mind as long as the new clones don't get nailed.
Hey OP: Do you currently have gnats or not?
My brother had dirt issues. All he did was bottom feed his plants so the top layer of dirt was bone dry for about two weeks. All the larvae ended up drying out and dying. His isn't fool proof and it isnt proven but worked for him to get rid of gnats. Hope that makes sense.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: HundredYards]
#17325649 - 12/03/12 09:22 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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yep, i ignored the facts and used an Metal Halide once thinking i was killing two birds with one stone and my results were very poor.
Haha. The first tray style bulk i tried fruiting i put under a 400w MH. No go lol. The top overlaid after a couple weeks and only a few small fruits popped up.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: JumpinLow]
#17325666 - 12/03/12 09:27 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wouldn't it just be safer and way less of a hassle to use mesquito nets... As a first line of defense to try and avoid chems on the plants.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Tsukasa]
#17325721 - 12/03/12 09:46 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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TriGeoLight said: Wouldn't it just be safer and way less of a hassle to use mesquito nets... As a first line of defense to try and avoid chems on the plants.
Hypoaspis Miles (predator) is the only thing that works for gnats and works well.
Spray Einsteins oil(don't skimp with cheaper products) weekly for the mites and this will handle any powdery mildew too, unless you have a radical temp drop at lites out(condensation is a bitch).
Keep plants under 3 feet unless you have side lighting or have small wispy buds.(initiate bloom when they are 18-24")
Charcoal filters because the smell will get you caught before the heat signature.
Vent up a chimney or get some of that FLIR resistant material.
If your really worried about heat signatures go with LEDs but your harvest weight will suffer.
It's been my experience that the smell is the biggest factor.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: skippydude]
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TriGeoLight said: Wouldn't it just be safer and way less of a hassle to use mesquito nets... As a first line of defense to try and avoid chems on the plants.
Hypoaspis Miles (predator) is the only thing that works for gnats and works well.
Spray Einsteins oil(don't skimp with cheaper products) weekly for the mites and this will handle any powdery mildew too, unless you have a radical temp drop at lites out(condensation is a bitch).
Keep plants under 3 feet unless you have side lighting or have small wispy buds.(initiate bloom when they are 18-24")
Charcoal filters because the smell will get you caught before the heat signature.
Vent up a chimney or get some of that FLIR resistant material.
If your really worried about heat signatures go with LEDs but your harvest weight will suffer.
It's been my experience that the smell is the biggest factor.
Id rather have to grow more to make up for my loss than go to prison because of a stupid light.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Tsukasa]
#17325790 - 12/03/12 10:08 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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In reality, a 400w light setup runs maybe ~600w with pumps and a fan running a filter. (a 400w MH setup is pretty powerful and you could run a full 4x2x6 tent off of one pretty efficiently).
Putting 600w power usage into perspective, a ps3 uses roughly 150-200w on regular usage. In the house i live in where there are 7 other college students, it's easily masked as a mini fridge and gaming console.
Also, even running a 1000w MH kit, so long as your hydro company gets paid, they won`t have any problems with it and won`t find a need to get anyone else involved.
Furthermore, there has been tons of research in the field of LED lighting in the passed few years that have actually made them a pretty fair competitor. Although HID kits will still surpass LED`s right now, there have been some pretty epic grows using LED`s! And if you`re paying your own hydro bill, it`s definitely something to look into.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: OmegaMachine]
#17325866 - 12/03/12 10:23 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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OmegaMachine said: In reality, a 400w light setup runs maybe ~600w with pumps and a fan running a filter. (a 400w MH setup is pretty powerful and you could run a full 4x2x6 tent off of one pretty efficiently).
Putting 600w power usage into perspective, a ps3 uses roughly 150-200w on regular usage. In the house i live in where there are 7 other college students, it's easily masked as a mini fridge and gaming console.
Also, even running a 1000w MH kit, so long as your hydro company gets paid, they won`t have any problems with it and won`t find a need to get anyone else involved.
Furthermore, there has been tons of research in the field of LED lighting in the passed few years that have actually made them a pretty fair competitor. Although HID kits will still surpass LED`s right now, there have been some pretty epic grows using LED`s! And if you`re paying your own hydro bill, it`s definitely something to look into.
Well I hardly turn lights on in the house any ways so running a grow room and a computer all day compared to how most people leave lights on they would think i live in a damn cave. I have heard of the LED debate i feel like its almost like the 24/0 or 18/6 lighting debate. Every one has there preference or they thing there ways the best. You know what I mean.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Tsukasa]
#17325908 - 12/03/12 10:31 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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These LED's are some the brightest technology has to offer.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390212063000&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160
I just bought 20 of em to add to my FC which currently only pushes 900 lumens of 6k. These 20 alone will add 3300 lumens. Here is a pic of my fc with just the first set of led's.

The New LED's im getting are 8k but I suspect they will be fine. On another note they would be good for vegetative growth if you had enough of em. With 100k hour life expectancy, and such low power requirements, they will pay for themselves. Just hook an array of em to an old computer power supply.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Sillyputty67]
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a 400 watt computer power supply and 400 1 watt led diodes would be the brightest thing you ever looked at, and its only 400 watts. lol . It would equal 59200 lumens. woot.
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I need to upload pics of my FC i just built it and I fucking love it. I did a shot gun and pmp verse in case the power goes out so I don't have to stress about fanning or FAE in general. I have a reptile humidifier from petco and a fish tank air pump with 4 air stone bars. I've ran it at max hauling some ass and my temp and humidity peaked and stayed at 75 degrees farenheit and 90% humidity. I love my FC even though it's a bag of dicks. LOL... I need to get those lights though they sound great as fuck.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Tsukasa]
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Thats kinda the direction im going with mine too. Its basically a shotgun, but it has a resevoir for a small ultrasonic mister on a timer. An airstone to keep the resevoir water oxygenated. a pc fan hooked to a timer on top of the Fc. Then 1 micron polyester filter media on all sided to lock out contams. Should still function like a shotgun, but will not need manual FAE/Misting. When its done, ima call it a redhouse.
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You can get misters air pumps and timers and humid and temp gauges for pretty cheap at petco or your local pet store in the reptile and amphibian section. They had these gnarly ass timers with like 8 fem outlets hooked up to the timer so you can run you a entirely custom set up for multiple FC off the same plug. I went to petco because there's no smart shops or any thing near me.
Your set ups sick. If your pushing enough air in you almost don't need an out take since you have the shotgun holes it will push the air out through those. It should boost the health though. PFTek did fine with just a shotgun FC. I thought I feel like I'm going all out and over killing you know what I mean, but I want the best of the best of the best of the best shrooms sir.
I just quoted men and black. LOL
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Tsukasa]
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I dont believe in overkill. Ill probably have 80 bucks wrapped up into this FC buts its worth it to me. Plus i had a lot of the stuff just laying around to start with.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Sillyputty67]
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On the LED subject I have a lumigrow pro series. Probably best led I've owned. Costly but you got to pay to play. But for nugs I still love my 1k hps.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Tsukasa]
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TriGeoLight said: Wouldn't it just be safer and way less of a hassle to use mesquito nets... As a first line of defense to try and avoid chems on the plants.
Hypoaspis Miles (predator) is the only thing that works for gnats and works well.
Spray Einsteins oil(don't skimp with cheaper products) weekly for the mites and this will handle any powdery mildew too, unless you have a radical temp drop at lites out(condensation is a bitch).
Keep plants under 3 feet unless you have side lighting or have small wispy buds.(initiate bloom when they are 18-24")
Charcoal filters because the smell will get you caught before the heat signature.
Vent up a chimney or get some of that FLIR resistant material.
If your really worried about heat signatures go with LEDs but your harvest weight will suffer.
It's been my experience that the smell is the biggest factor.
Id rather have to grow more to make up for my loss than go to prison because of a stupid light.
Then grow outdoors.
I know from experience bigger plants do not give more bud indoors.
Try it you will see.
The only way to do it is side lighting or bend the branches to the floor and lower the lights.
Flowers have to be within 2" of the light , study up on how light is lost exponentially.
And recommended light per foot.
May I recommend Jorge Cervantes 'Growers Bible' haven't found to many questions that book can't answer about growing herb.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: skippydude]
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I'm planning on get the book all ready.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: skippydude]
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LOOK HOW WELL IT'S WORKING GUYS... IT'S MAGIIIIIC!!!!!
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: skippydude]
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Kind of off topic, but lots of good info on LED's here! http://donklipstein.com/led.html
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: OmegaMachine]
#17331281 - 12/04/12 07:16 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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LEDs suck, don't fall for it.
They are great for spectrum. They suck on intensity.
Way too expensive.
I am sure they'll get better and cheaper in time(everything does)
I'll wait until someone shows me some good bud from them before I make that plunge.
I have gone full circle in growing styles.
Started indoors because I was renting. Grew good weed, but expensive on equipment and power.
Got my own house, grew outdoors. Dealt with rippers until I set up motion sensors and caught that bastard(another story)
Had some silly brain storm last year and built a green house. Fall and spring produce outstanding crops. Summer crop suffers from heat and humidity from swamp cooler. Winter just not enough free light.
Long story short I am going back to nature(outdoors) huge plants, less bugs/molds and minimal expense.

Get this book(best advice) I wore the cover off of my first one I used it so much. I grow the dankest in my circle
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skippydude said: LEDs suck, don't fall for it.
They are great for spectrum. They suck on intensity.
Way too expensive.
I am sure they'll get better and cheaper in time(everything does)
I'll wait until someone shows me some good bud from them before I make that plunge.
I have gone full circle in growing styles.
Started indoors because I was renting. Grew good weed, but expensive on equipment and power.
Got my own house, grew outdoors. Dealt with rippers until I set up motion sensors and caught that bastard(another story)
Had some silly brain storm last year and built a green house. Fall and spring produce outstanding crops. Summer crop suffers from heat and humidity from swamp cooler. Winter just not enough free light.
Long story short I am going back to nature(outdoors) huge plants, less bugs/molds and minimal expense.

Get this book(best advice) I wore the cover off of my first one I used it so much. I grow the dankest in my circle
Ummmm....This is mushroom cultivation, not weed cultivation.
For cultivating mushrooms the intensity is not as important as the color temperature.
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A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: PussyFart]
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Didn't read thQuote:
Notahacker420 said:
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skippydude said: LEDs suck, don't fall for it.
They are great for spectrum. They suck on intensity.
Way too expensive.
I am sure they'll get better and cheaper in time(everything does)
I'll wait until someone shows me some good bud from them before I make that plunge.
I have gone full circle in growing styles.
Started indoors because I was renting. Grew good weed, but expensive on equipment and power.
Got my own house, grew outdoors. Dealt with rippers until I set up motion sensors and caught that bastard(another story)
Had some silly brain storm last year and built a green house. Fall and spring produce outstanding crops. Summer crop suffers from heat and humidity from swamp cooler. Winter just not enough free light.
Long story short I am going back to nature(outdoors) huge plants, less bugs/molds and minimal expense.

Get this book(best advice) I wore the cover off of my first one I used it so much. I grow the dankest in my circle
Ummmm....This is mushroom cultivation, not weed cultivation.
For cultivating mushrooms the intensity is not as important as the color temperature.
Questions were asked.
Questions were answered.

Sorry if the thread is under the wrong forum.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: skippydude]
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There is this dude on youtube who compared led and hid lighting side by side. The technology is here. He had pretty impressive results. The buds on the led side were a little smaller. So when factoring power consumption and heat production the Led's won. Check out the omega garden /volksgarden setups. They are wild as fuck.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Sillyputty67]
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malicom said: There is this dude on youtube who compared led and hid lighting side by side. The technology is here. He had pretty impressive results. The buds on the led side were a little smaller. So when factoring power consumption and heat production the Led's won. Check out the omega garden /volksgarden setups. They are wild as fuck.
Trust me he is a salesman.
Harvest wieght suffers tremendously.
I live in a community of growers and know first hand.
You figure the price of those LEDs coupled with crappy harvests and where is the savings.
Trust me people are jumping ahead of technology here, wait they will get better and cheaper.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: skippydude]
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Well the techy response is build your own led arrays to cut cost. A 400 watt computer power supply or better is all you need. Ill bet you a dime to a donut that I could match the luminous output of your 1K hid for under 400$.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Sillyputty67]
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Failed to mention, these LEDs are outstanding for vegitative growth Just no good for flowers
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: skippydude]
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skippydude said: Failed to mention, these LEDs are outstanding for vegitative growth Just no good for flowers
Depends how you grow. I have a led from lumigrow pro series. And I can run a sea of green with great gpw. But you not growing monsters. You growing a lot of clones that average a quarter to half ounce a clone.
For my bigger plants I use a 1k hps.
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: JumpinLow]
#17332478 - 12/04/12 12:40 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Also people fuck up because they feed like the do with HiD which is a no no.
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