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OfflineSmokinErb
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Tsukasa]
    #17201826 - 11/11/12 04:08 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I've got a window in the garage.  I have an AC mounted in it in the summer and a sheet of plywood on top of it (window opens by sliding it sideways) with holes cut for ventilation.  In the winter, its just a full sheet of plywood with some holes in it.

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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: SmokinErb]
    #17201866 - 11/11/12 04:16 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

That's cool. I heard that's what most people do for temperature control to. They just stick a simple window unit in the room.


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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: PEROXIDE]
    #17325127 - 12/03/12 06:05 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

fungus gnats (Sciarid flies) have always fucked me over when growing mushrooms outdoors, and i know of a lot of people who had them in weed grows. so not mold, but a problem that can arise none the less.

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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: coneconington]
    #17325176 - 12/03/12 06:37 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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coneconington said:
fungus gnats (Sciarid flies) have always fucked me over when growing mushrooms outdoors, and i know of a lot of people who had them in weed grows. so not mold, but a problem that can arise none the less.



Those are just the average group of gnats or fruit flies you see that follow every one around and fly in your face and piss you off right.


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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: coneconington]
    #17325179 - 12/03/12 06:40 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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coneconington said:
fungus gnats (Sciarid flies) have always fucked me over when growing mushrooms outdoors, and i know of a lot of people who had them in weed grows. so not mold, but a problem that can arise none the less.




Bingo.  If you are currently growing pot I assume you have a fungus gnat population. They are probably under control, and you can ignore them most of the time, but occasionally need a spray or something.

Those pot plants will supply a continuous stream of gnats trying to invade your tubs or GH. (ack, just slapped one).  I hate the fuckers, and had to choose 1 or the other.

1 gnat in a tub will flutter around, dropping contams everywhere.  It will burrow into the myc, lay eggs and a week later the tub is fucked as they start drilling everywhere. And that is a tub, in which you have a chance of isolation.  If you use a GH you are totally fucked, they will be EVERYWHERE.

And they LOVE the fungus, so they will go straight for it, all the time.

The green is gone, but I'm working through the remnants of the flies.

Edited by shroom_bee (12/03/12 06:41 AM)

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OfflineJumpinLow
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: shroom_bee]
    #17325203 - 12/03/12 06:57 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I have a lot of pot and currently growing mushrooms with no problem. Granted I use coco with my MJ plants so no fungus gnat issue ever.

If you just have good house keeping techniques fungus gnats shouldn't be an issue.

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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: JumpinLow]
    #17325495 - 12/03/12 08:36 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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JumpinLow said:
I have a lot of pot and currently growing mushrooms with no problem. Granted I use coco with my MJ plants so no fungus gnat issue ever.

If you just have good house keeping techniques fungus gnats shouldn't be an issue.




Well, for the dirt grower it is an issue. you can't "clean" dirt, but you can get a reasonable balance going with the little bastards, using various non-poisonous organic methods.  I'm unwilling to use any serious chems to wipe them out, and the MJ doesn't mind as long as the new clones don't get nailed.

Hey OP:  Do you currently have gnats or not?

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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: shroom_bee]
    #17325513 - 12/03/12 08:41 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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shroom_bee said:
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JumpinLow said:
I have a lot of pot and currently growing mushrooms with no problem. Granted I use coco with my MJ plants so no fungus gnat issue ever.

If you just have good house keeping techniques fungus gnats shouldn't be an issue.




Well, for the dirt grower it is an issue. you can't "clean" dirt, but you can get a reasonable balance going with the little bastards, using various non-poisonous organic methods.  I'm unwilling to use any serious chems to wipe them out, and the MJ doesn't mind as long as the new clones don't get nailed.

Hey OP:  Do you currently have gnats or not?





You can pasteurize dirt.... Best way would be a large pot with a lid in the stove. Do like 3 or 4 hours at 265 degrees F. You may have to rehydrate. Then grow from seed. That way no gnats/mites come in on clones. Use a hydro or hybrid system to avoid dirt. Keep your grow area clean. Put 1 micron polyester filter media on the outside of your fruiting chamber. 12 bucks for a 7 x 3 foot sheet on ebay. Just my .2


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OfflineJumpinLow
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: shroom_bee]
    #17325571 - 12/03/12 08:57 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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shroom_bee said:
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JumpinLow said:
I have a lot of pot and currently growing mushrooms with no problem. Granted I use coco with my MJ plants so no fungus gnat issue ever.

If you just have good house keeping techniques fungus gnats shouldn't be an issue.




Well, for the dirt grower it is an issue. you can't "clean" dirt, but you can get a reasonable balance going with the little bastards, using various non-poisonous organic methods.  I'm unwilling to use any serious chems to wipe them out, and the MJ doesn't mind as long as the new clones don't get nailed.

Hey OP:  Do you currently have gnats or not?




My brother had dirt issues. All he did was bottom feed his plants so the top layer of dirt was bone dry for about two weeks. All the larvae ended up drying out and dying. His isn't fool proof and it isnt proven but worked for him to get rid of gnats. Hope that makes sense.

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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: HundredYards]
    #17325649 - 12/03/12 09:22 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
but MH and HPS is not.
RR




yep, i ignored the facts and used an Metal Halide once thinking i was killing two birds with one stone and my results were very poor.




Haha. The first tray style bulk i tried fruiting i put under a 400w MH. No go lol. The top overlaid after a couple weeks and only a few small fruits popped up.


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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: JumpinLow]
    #17325666 - 12/03/12 09:27 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Wouldn't it just be safer and way less of a hassle to use mesquito nets... As a first line of defense to try and avoid chems on the plants.


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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Tsukasa]
    #17325721 - 12/03/12 09:46 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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TriGeoLight said:
Wouldn't it just be safer and way less of a hassle to use mesquito nets... As a first line of defense to try and avoid chems on the plants.




Hypoaspis Miles (predator) is the only thing that works for gnats and works well.

Spray Einsteins oil(don't skimp with cheaper products) weekly for the mites and this will handle any powdery mildew too, unless you have a radical temp drop at lites out(condensation is a bitch).

Keep plants under 3 feet unless you have side lighting or have small wispy buds.(initiate bloom when they are 18-24")

Charcoal filters because the smell will get you caught before the heat signature.

Vent up a chimney or get some of that FLIR resistant material.

If your really worried about heat signatures go with LEDs but your harvest weight will suffer.

It's been my experience that the smell is the biggest factor.

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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: skippydude]
    #17325744 - 12/03/12 09:56 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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skippydude said:
Quote:

TriGeoLight said:
Wouldn't it just be safer and way less of a hassle to use mesquito nets... As a first line of defense to try and avoid chems on the plants.




Hypoaspis Miles (predator) is the only thing that works for gnats and works well.

Spray Einsteins oil(don't skimp with cheaper products) weekly for the mites and this will handle any powdery mildew too, unless you have a radical temp drop at lites out(condensation is a bitch).

Keep plants under 3 feet unless you have side lighting or have small wispy buds.(initiate bloom when they are 18-24")

Charcoal filters because the smell will get you caught before the heat signature.

Vent up a chimney or get some of that FLIR resistant material.

If your really worried about heat signatures go with LEDs but your harvest weight will suffer.

It's been my experience that the smell is the biggest factor.



Id rather have to grow more to make up for my loss than go to prison because of a stupid light.


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OfflineOmegaMachine
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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Tsukasa]
    #17325790 - 12/03/12 10:08 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

In reality, a 400w light setup runs maybe ~600w with pumps and a fan running a filter. (a 400w MH setup is pretty powerful and you could run a full 4x2x6 tent off of one pretty efficiently).

Putting 600w power usage into perspective, a ps3 uses roughly 150-200w on regular usage. In the house i live in where there are 7 other college students, it's easily masked as a mini fridge and gaming console.

Also, even running a 1000w MH kit, so long as your hydro company gets paid, they won`t have any problems with it and won`t find a need to get anyone else involved.

Furthermore, there has been tons of research in the field of LED lighting  in the passed few years that have actually made them a pretty fair competitor. Although HID kits will still surpass LED`s right now, there have been some pretty epic grows using LED`s!  And if you`re paying your own hydro bill, it`s definitely something to look into.


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-Coir - Cheap/Effective/EASY
-Monotubs - So hands free Edward Scissorhands could do this shit.
-SAB - See Coir.

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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: OmegaMachine]
    #17325866 - 12/03/12 10:23 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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OmegaMachine said:
In reality, a 400w light setup runs maybe ~600w with pumps and a fan running a filter. (a 400w MH setup is pretty powerful and you could run a full 4x2x6 tent off of one pretty efficiently).

Putting 600w power usage into perspective, a ps3 uses roughly 150-200w on regular usage. In the house i live in where there are 7 other college students, it's easily masked as a mini fridge and gaming console.

Also, even running a 1000w MH kit, so long as your hydro company gets paid, they won`t have any problems with it and won`t find a need to get anyone else involved.

Furthermore, there has been tons of research in the field of LED lighting  in the passed few years that have actually made them a pretty fair competitor. Although HID kits will still surpass LED`s right now, there have been some pretty epic grows using LED`s!  And if you`re paying your own hydro bill, it`s definitely something to look into.



Well I hardly turn lights on in the house any ways so running a grow room and a computer all day compared to how most people leave lights on they would think i live in a damn cave. I have heard of the LED debate i feel like its almost like the 24/0 or 18/6 lighting debate. Every one has there preference or they thing there ways the best. You know what I mean.


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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Tsukasa]
    #17325908 - 12/03/12 10:31 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

These LED's are some the brightest technology has to offer.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390212063000&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160


I just bought 20 of em to add to my FC which currently only pushes 900 lumens of 6k. These 20 alone will add 3300 lumens. Here is a pic of my fc with just the first set of led's.



The New LED's im getting are 8k but I suspect they will be fine. On another note they would be good for vegetative growth if you had enough of em. With 100k hour life expectancy, and such low power requirements, they will pay for themselves. Just hook an array of em to an old computer power supply.


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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Sillyputty67]
    #17326002 - 12/03/12 10:54 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

a 400 watt computer power supply and 400 1 watt led diodes would be the brightest thing you ever looked at, and its only 400 watts. lol . It would equal 59200 lumens. woot.


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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Sillyputty67] * 1
    #17326024 - 12/03/12 11:00 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I need to upload pics of my FC i just built it and I fucking love it. I did a shot gun and pmp verse in case the power goes out so I don't have to stress about fanning or FAE in general. I have a reptile humidifier from petco and a fish tank air pump with 4 air stone bars. I've ran it at max hauling some ass and my temp and humidity peaked and stayed at 75 degrees farenheit and 90% humidity. I love my FC even though it's a bag of dicks. LOL... I need to get those lights though they sound great as fuck.


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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Tsukasa]
    #17326059 - 12/03/12 11:11 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thats kinda the direction im going with mine too. Its basically a shotgun, but it has a resevoir for a small ultrasonic mister on a timer. An airstone to keep the resevoir water oxygenated. a pc fan hooked to a timer on top of the Fc. Then 1 micron polyester filter media on all sided to lock out contams. Should still function like a shotgun, but will not need manual FAE/Misting. When its done, ima call it a redhouse.

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Re: pot and shrooms in the same house???? [Re: Sillyputty67] * 1
    #17326166 - 12/03/12 11:28 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

You can get misters air pumps and timers and humid and temp gauges for pretty cheap at petco or your local pet store in the reptile and amphibian section. They had these gnarly ass timers with like 8 fem outlets hooked up to the timer so you can run you a entirely custom set up for multiple FC off the same plug. I went to petco because there's no smart shops or any thing near me.

Your set ups sick. If your pushing enough air in you almost don't need an out take since you have the shotgun holes it will push the air out through those. It should boost the health though. PFTek did fine with just a shotgun FC. I thought I feel like I'm going all out and over killing you know what I mean, but I want the best of the best of the best of the best shrooms sir.

I just quoted men and black. LOL


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