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OfflineVats of Blood
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my paranoia issue with mushrooms: dying
    #1719741 - 07/16/03 12:53 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

ok ive been paranoid every time i eat mushrooms about that whole possibility of death thing. like if something goes wrong in the growing process, and some bacteria grows on a shroom, it can kill you. whats the deal with this? like is there a way to tell if a mushroom has gone "bad?" what has to happen to a mushroom in the growing process for it to kill you? what other physical risks do i run if i were to eat shrooms, namely p. cubensis? thanks!


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Re: my paranoia issue with mushrooms: dying [Re: Vats of Blood]
    #1719800 - 07/16/03 01:10 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

you should catch the contamination long before the mushroom actually grows...if your jars or mushrooms look anything like this (http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23418) then dont trust em...

other than that...no matter how weird you feel...thats just the shrooms...and you can't die from shroom poisoning (considering they aren't contaminated)...even if you eat your own weight in shrooms you won't have a fatal overdose....but you'll be in a totally different world for a few hours...


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Re: my paranoia issue with mushrooms: dying [Re: Vats of Blood]
    #1719802 - 07/16/03 01:11 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

your best option in the growing process is to always use your nose. However do not directly sniff the jars as there can be dangereous bacteria. the smell will waft out. IF you smell anything other than mushrooms during the process use caution. watch for any colors on the mycelium. If it is all white an looks healthy your chances are good. Don't be afraid to lose a cake, it happens.
The only colors you may see are light yellow from excess moisture in the jars or blue if your cakes are dehydrated. There are some pics of diseased mushrooms in the Faq's. hope it helps


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Re: my paranoia issue with mushrooms: dying [Re: thisone]
    #1719843 - 07/16/03 01:23 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

sorry, maybe i shouldve been more specific...the reason im so nervous is cause i dont grow, id be buying from someone else.


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Re: my paranoia issue with mushrooms: dying [Re: Vats of Blood]
    #1719849 - 07/16/03 01:24 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

either get a reliable resource, grow your own, or risk getting sick, but forget about dying.


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Re: my paranoia issue with mushrooms: dying [Re: thisone]
    #1719856 - 07/16/03 01:28 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

forget about dying..really? i swear ive heard about people dying like the day after/a couple days after they eat shrooms....


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Re: my paranoia issue with mushrooms: dying [Re: YellowPurpleHills]
    #1719875 - 07/16/03 01:35 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

ya,well thats just sort of a personal rule i have - i wont eat shrooms unless theyre homegrown.


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Re: my paranoia issue with mushrooms: dying [Re: Vats of Blood]
    #1719889 - 07/16/03 01:38 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

depends what kind of mushroom...psilocybe cubensis should be safe...however if you eat an amanita phalloides (destroying angel) then it will destroy your liver cells and kill you...

there is no better cure for paranoia than to educate yourself...go to The Erowid Mushroom Vault and read up...

some other useful links

The Psychedelic FAQ


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Re: my paranoia issue with mushrooms: dying [Re: GestaltAssault]
    #1719900 - 07/16/03 01:42 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yeah i know about the amanita deal, and ive read on erowid, but it didnt say anything (or at least i couldnt find anything) about the death issue.


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Re: my paranoia issue with mushrooms: dying [Re: Vats of Blood]
    #1719936 - 07/16/03 01:55 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

one more question: is there a way to tell if a shroom is "bad" after its been dried? again, referring to p. cubensis


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Re: my paranoia issue with mushrooms: dying [Re: Vats of Blood]
    #1719948 - 07/16/03 02:00 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

well since yer shrooms probably come from a wild source...you might want to post in the Mushroom Hunting Forum


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Re: my paranoia issue with mushrooms: dying [Re: Vats of Blood]
    #1720412 - 07/16/03 04:41 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

"is there a way to tell if a shroom is "bad" after its been dried?"


This is an old LSAuser question =)

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Re: my paranoia issue with mushrooms: dying [Re: XiC_clone]
    #1720422 - 07/16/03 04:44 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

bad as in potency loss?or bad as in rotten?


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Re: my paranoia issue with mushrooms: dying [Re: Psilocybin_monkey]
    #1720459 - 07/16/03 04:59 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

bad as in "can cause me harm"

edit - or yeah, i guess "bad" as in anything out of the ordinary.


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Re: my paranoia issue with mushrooms: dying [Re: Vats of Blood]
    #1720488 - 07/16/03 05:10 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

once they are cracker dry they can't go bad they can only lose potency from air breaking the psilocybin and psilocin down.but they have been stored for years by sucking all the air out of the jars using a "food saver" so far the oldest mushroom powder that has been taken was about four years old with no potency loss(not mush if there was some)

http://www.theomc.com/forums/index.cfm?CFID=2569816&CFTOKEN=33040801&fuseaction=read&forum=45&id=406


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Re: my paranoia issue with mushrooms: dying [Re: Psilocybin_monkey]
    #1720648 - 07/16/03 07:37 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

If there were ever a "bad" cubensis shroom, the media would hop all over that. Have you ever seen stories of someone dying from eating a contaminated shroom? Maybe from eating the wrong species, but not from eating the correct one. Think about it, mushrooms grow in cow shit and people have been eating them for centuries/thousands of years. I don't know of anyone ever dying from eating a contaminated cubensis.

Of course I may be wrong. If I am would someone please correct me?


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Re: my paranoia issue with mushrooms: dying [Re: neutralizer]
    #1720655 - 07/16/03 07:45 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

there is one report where somebody died from eating too many magic mushrooms but i guess he mix it with other drugs and alcohol.They say you would have to eat 20lbs of mushrooms before it can hurt/kill you and by that time yout stomach would had exploded way before reaching that much!

well never the less here's the link

http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=10488


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Re: my paranoia issue with mushrooms: dying [Re: Psilocybin_monkey]
    #1720758 - 07/16/03 08:49 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I'd agree with the 'educate yourself' position; make use of the enormous resources here and grow your own. The contamination forum provides ample information for determining if your mushrooms have become contaminated, and really the green mold is most typical and very easily recognized, both visually and by means of smell. Educating yourself with help eradicate the paranoia.


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Re: my paranoia issue with mushrooms: dying [Re: TheHobbit]
    #1720785 - 07/16/03 09:00 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Its a fact:Everyone that eats Magic mushrooms will eventually die.


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