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Offlinelemunhed
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How do you get it to pin ULTRA fast?!
    #1718695 - 07/15/03 05:34 PM (14 years, 13 days ago)

Hey. I know some kid who has been growing for a few months and is getting pretty good, he can always get 100% clean spawn and case it without contams and all that shit, but then when it comes to fruiting it takes forever. I was wondering if there are any special ways that I don't know about to get shrooms to pin faster. I'm not looking for "just fan it alot, put 12 hours of light on it and cold shock it" because I already know all that.
I was wondering about casing preparation, is this important to help shrooms pin? Is substrate depth important? Or what about temperature fluctuation inside the terrarium? Anything I am despereate, the fastest pins I have ever gotten took over 2 weeks and I am getting tired of it lol. Thanks guys You are the best!


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Re: How do you get it to pin ULTRA fast?! [Re: lemunhed]
    #1718753 - 07/15/03 05:48 PM (14 years, 13 days ago)

Try cold shocking, if you haven't already. Aside from that, I don't know what to say. Make sure your temperatures and moisture levels are reasonable, and work with fast strains like Equadorian or Cambodian. Mine always take a long time to fruit, which can be irritating, but it's still worth the wait if you have to.


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Re: How do you get it to pin ULTRA fast?! [Re: lemunhed]
    #1718898 - 07/15/03 06:41 PM (14 years, 13 days ago)

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I'm not looking for "just fan it alot, put 12 hours of light on it and cold shock it"




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Re: How do you get it to pin ULTRA fast?! [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
    #1719035 - 07/15/03 07:26 PM (14 years, 13 days ago)

I believe it was in TMC that I read about a technique that involved taking a pin and blending it up in water, then spraying onto the casing. The pin sends out a chemical signal that tells the casing its time. I believe I also read that it doesn?t even need to be from the same species for it to work (so obviously if another species would work, so would a different strain).

I never did get around to trying this though, but if you must be impatient, it may just help.


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Re: How do you get it to pin ULTRA fast?! [Re: ATWAR]
    #1719480 - 07/15/03 11:30 PM (14 years, 12 days ago)

That sounds interesting, I don't have the knowledge to postulate a mechanism of action for that but it sounds interesting. I just need a pin to do it with! In The Mushroom Cultivator?


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Re: How do you get it to pin ULTRA fast?! [Re: lemunhed]
    #1719764 - 07/16/03 01:01 AM (14 years, 12 days ago)

whoa thats crazy, if that really works.. just spraying a pin.. that would be the shiznazzel.. but wait.. if u get a pin... then u wont need to spray it.. right? because youll already have shrooms!...... man im so smart


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Re: How do you get it to pin ULTRA fast?! [Re: Only1AK]
    #1720075 - 07/16/03 02:41 AM (14 years, 12 days ago)

Well, you would use a pin from another casing obviously...

Another thing to consider is the mycelial network needs to "get ready" for pin formation. It needs to have digested enough food before it can actually form mushrooms. There really is no way for you to speed up this process. I am pretty sure it was in The Mushroom Cultivator. Lost that (and many other a good book) in a house fire, so I cant check to be sure...


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Re: How do you get it to pin ULTRA fast?! [Re: ATWAR]
    #1720957 - 07/16/03 10:29 AM (14 years, 12 days ago)

=( sorry to hear that.


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Re: How do you get it to pin ULTRA fast?! [Re: lemunhed]
    #1720969 - 07/16/03 10:45 AM (14 years, 12 days ago)

Don't you know by now that patience is a virtue that is needed for this hobby? :tongue:


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Re: How do you get it to pin ULTRA fast?! [Re: neutralizer]
    #1722307 - 07/16/03 07:11 PM (14 years, 12 days ago)

Yeah but once you get past 2 weeks and your casing isn't doing anything, I begin to wonder whether I am being patient or stupid to wait. After like... 3 weeks, if it hasn't pinned it's probably not going to pin (at least when your talking cubensis).


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Re: How do you get it to pin ULTRA fast?! [Re: lemunhed]
    #1722343 - 07/16/03 07:26 PM (14 years, 12 days ago)

It wasn't Stamets who recommended grinding up a pin, thats for sure. I dont know about that technique, but its not a chemical reaction per se that causes pinning. Its the set of the mycellium. The pins start forming long before you ever see them.

Also, 3 weeks isn't extreme. 2 weeks isn't at all unusual for pin sets. It can take 2 days, or 4 weeks, it all depends.

Have patience, quit staring at your casings and they will grow! :-)


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Re: How do you get it to pin ULTRA fast?! [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
    #1722409 - 07/16/03 07:52 PM (14 years, 12 days ago)

has anyone ever tried to introduce oxygen into the terranium to try and force pinning.


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Re: How do you get it to pin ULTRA fast?! [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
    #1722505 - 07/16/03 08:15 PM (14 years, 12 days ago)

No you could do that... granted you would have one of the most flammable materials in the universe surrounded in a closed area that is possible made of glass, effectively turning your terrarium into a massive glass shrapnel producing incendiary device. Maybe if you did it when there was NO light near your terrarium.to set it off... C02 enrichment is common enough in Pot growing, why not 02?


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Re: How do you get it to pin ULTRA fast?! [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
    #1722669 - 07/16/03 08:54 PM (14 years, 12 days ago)

if any of you have ever noticed how a shroom grtows from dung in  the wild, youll see that mycelum forms from deep within the poo and expands untill iit hits the outside. it is then exposed to light, atmosphere, (o2) and a greater varance of temperatures. try to replicate these conditions and youll fruit. also there is a thread in the advanced forum on the pin blending concept

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Re: How do you get it to pin ULTRA fast?! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #1724869 - 07/17/03 03:29 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

There's also a thread in Advanced Cultivation about the role of UV in pinning.


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Re: How do you get it to pin ULTRA fast?! [Re: khufu]
    #1727525 - 07/18/03 02:01 PM (14 years, 10 days ago)

if you want fast pins grow ks
kramer would bet his virginity that your not growing ks because you would be amazed at how fast these bad boys pin


at least thats what kramer says
btw what strain?


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