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elcooperino
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should colonising jars be kept in the dark ?
#17181605 - 11/07/12 08:33 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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i was strongly under the impression that colonising jars should be kept in the dark. iv seen it in a few teks i think and a fair few growlogs doing it. theirs a few people with much more knowledge than me saying that light is beneficial to mycelium when colonizing.
i don't know what to make of it all so i was hoping somone could clear it up for me ? or is just not worth me worrying ?
Thanks El Cooperino
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serotonin storm
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Re: should colonising jars be kept in the dark ? [Re: elcooperino]
#17181609 - 11/07/12 08:33 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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No. Light is beneficial at all stages of growth
Check the dates of the teks and grow logs you are looking at. 7 years or so ago when I started keeping them in the dark was standard procedure. It is old and outdated info
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smitty5606
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Re: should colonising jars be kept in the dark ? [Re: serotonin storm]
#17181639 - 11/07/12 08:37 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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serotonin storm said: No. Light is beneficial at all stages of growth

OP do you use a incubator
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elcooperino
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Re: should colonising jars be kept in the dark ? [Re: smitty5606]
#17181674 - 11/07/12 08:43 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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okay very good to know and the teks i was looking at where years old tbh haha thanks again man
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Re: should colonising jars be kept in the dark ? [Re: elcooperino]
#17181712 - 11/07/12 08:48 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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TBH this is one of the controlled studies I never did. I colonized jars in room temp light and dark. The ones in the dark colonized faster but it may have been due to insulation from the tub.
I have always colonized jars in a TiT in darkness and my jars finished in 6-7 days from GLC and max 9-10(Average 7-8) from MS. I never did a test with a TiT that was transparent. This is on my list of to do's if I ever do grow again.
Either way, you will get faster growth by having higher temps in the 80-82 range. I have spoken with RR many times and according to his studies even in the 80-82 range and with ambient light, they colonized a bit faster.
The difference may be a day or so at most. If you are not commercial growing then it should not make a difference TBH. It is a matter of preference. There's more then one way to skin a cat
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smitty5606
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Re: should colonizing jars be kept in the dark ? [Re: elcooperino]
#17181738 - 11/07/12 08:52 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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elcooperino said: okay very good to know and the teks i was looking at where years old tbh haha thanks again man 
lol in that case..there is no need for a incubator..most old teks require them.but they are proven ineffective
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Re: should colonising jars be kept in the dark ? [Re: Citric]
#17181752 - 11/07/12 08:56 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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The difference may be a day or so at most. If you are not commercial growing then it should not make a difference TBH. It is a matter of preference.
Exactly. It's not worth making accommodations either way IMO.
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Citric


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Re: should colonizing jars be kept in the dark ? [Re: smitty5606]
#17181754 - 11/07/12 08:56 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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smitty5606 said:
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elcooperino said: okay very good to know and the teks i was looking at where years old tbh haha thanks again man 
lol in that case..there is no need for a incubator..most old teks require them.but they are proven ineffective
I wouldn't say ineffective. I would however say that TiT has been proven that if not properly monitored or set correctly(Either through experience or with a quality heater) it can be detrimental to your grow.
I tuned my TiT in throughout the years. I went through many many aquarium heaters before I found one that worked. I tried so many cheap ones from Wal-Mart that only had a set temperature and then if you tweaked it you could basically "overclock" it. They would burn out quickly and or just do their own thing.
If anyone is going to use a TiT I would highly suggest use a quality aquarium heater that you have to spend some money on. The Pro Heat ones that Magash used in his original TiT thread work awesome. I bought one and it lasted me through every grow for years. They are very durable.
If you are inexperienced or light in the pocket, put them in the warmest place in your house(Unless it exceeds 80 degrees), regardless of light or darkness. A jar at 80 degrees in light or dark will colonize in half the time a jar at 70 degrees will.
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Re: should colonizing jars be kept in the dark ? [Re: elcooperino] 1
#17181811 - 11/07/12 09:07 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ambient room light is very beneficial for colonizing mycelium, but avoid direct sunlight until time for fruiting.
Shiitake substrates are ready for fruiting up to a few weeks earlier if exposed to light from day one. P cubensis will colonize a bit faster and pinning happens sooner if low-level light is used during the colonization phase. RR
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smitty5606
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Re: should colonizing jars be kept in the dark ? [Re: Citric]
#17181824 - 11/07/12 09:09 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Citric said:
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elcooperino said: okay very good to know and the teks i was looking at where years old tbh haha thanks again man 
lol in that case..there is no need for a incubator..most old teks require them.but they are proven ineffective
I wouldn't say ineffective. I would however say that TiT has been proven that if not properly monitored or set correctly(Either through experience or with a quality heater) it can be detrimental.
damn when im wrong im wrong...i was meaning it was not needed for basic cultivation purposes..but your right
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elcooperino
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Re: should colonizing jars be kept in the dark ? [Re: smitty5606]
#17183296 - 11/08/12 04:24 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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okay jars are going on top of the boiler inspite of the dark then thanks everyone for the information (Y)
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