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Re: Do you think people that commit suicide have figured it out? [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #17166016 - 11/05/12 02:13 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

You can doubt all you want but I'm pretty sure someone somewhere was just curious.


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Re: Do you think people that commit suicide have figured it out? [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #17168234 - 11/05/12 07:19 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Icelander said:
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Why do they commit suicide ? Because there are some problems.
Problems -> not figured it out. QED





How do you know every suicide had problems?



Tell me one, where no problems are involved.
For fun ? I doubt.
For experience death ? I doubt, as there will no-one to tell about this experience anymore. One can have this anytime, and one will have that sometimes for sure, anyhow.
I can't think of a situation for suicide where no problems are involved :tongue:





I guess you'd have to define what kind of problem you mean for anyone to really take this on, but for the sake of argument, I'll just assume that you mean the kind of personal problems people face in their lives and the subsequent need to fix or stop it, whatever it may be.

  • I wonder if some heroic deeds would be considered suicide, if the person doing said deed knew that they'd die, and did.


  • There are many cases of suicide in which an individual has willfully and knowingly ended their life in some action for the sake of their country/religion/whathaveyou.


  • People all throughout history have committed suicide to avoid torture in capture.


  • In some ancient cultures it was commonplace for people to die on their own terms. Though typically this happened in what would likely have already been the latter stages of an individual's life.


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Re: Do you think people that commit suicide have figured it out? [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #17168263 - 11/05/12 07:21 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Tell me one, where no problems are involved.
For fun ? I doubt.
For experience death ? I doubt, as there will no-one to tell about this experience anymore. One can have this anytime, and one will have that sometimes for sure, anyhow.
I can't think of a situation for suicide where no problems are involved :tongue:




I think you should read up on fetish and general fantazies out of the norm.


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Re: Do you think people that commit suicide have figured it out? [Re: liquidlounge]
    #17169880 - 11/05/12 11:41 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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liquidlounge said:
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BlueCoyote said:
Tell me one, where no problems are involved.
For fun ? I doubt.
For experience death ? I doubt, as there will no-one to tell about this experience anymore. One can have this anytime, and one will have that sometimes for sure, anyhow.
I can't think of a situation for suicide where no problems are involved :tongue:




I think you should read up on fetish and general fantazies out of the norm.



You mean this near death strangulation fetish sex games ? Hehe, I think no-one wants to die there. Just accidents.


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Re: Do you think people that commit suicide have figured it out? [Re: LuckyNo.Infinity]
    #17169893 - 11/05/12 11:44 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

1, Heroic deeds as suicide ? See Nr. 2. There was a problem, which seemed to be solvable with the death of the individuum.
3. Torture = problem
4. Old age and the loss of quality of life = problem.


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Re: Do you think people that commit suicide have figured it out? [Re: Icelander]
    #17169897 - 11/05/12 11:45 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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You can doubt all you want but I'm pretty sure someone somewhere was just curious.



Dumbness is a problem and contradicts the term 'figured it out' :lol:


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Re: Do you think people that commit suicide have figured it out? [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #17170156 - 11/06/12 12:59 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Don't be so hard on yourself.


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Re: Do you think people that commit suicide have figured it out? [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #17170199 - 11/06/12 01:08 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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liquidlounge said:
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BlueCoyote said:
Tell me one, where no problems are involved.
For fun ? I doubt.
For experience death ? I doubt, as there will no-one to tell about this experience anymore. One can have this anytime, and one will have that sometimes for sure, anyhow.
I can't think of a situation for suicide where no problems are involved :tongue:




I think you should read up on fetish and general fantazies out of the norm.



You mean this near death strangulation fetish sex games ? Hehe, I think no-one wants to die there. Just accidents.




People wanting to be eaten alive by another human being for example.

There are lots of happenings like these throughout history.


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Re: Do you think people that commit suicide have figured it out? [Re: liquidlounge]
    #17172846 - 11/06/12 01:49 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Hehe, ok, let's say exceptions confirm the rule.
But still, in this case, a fetish is a dis-association, a dis-connection to some random thing, which follows no specific causality towards the satisfaction of an urge. All kind of problems arise because of disassociations :wink:


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Re: Do you think people that commit suicide have figured it out? [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #17174979 - 11/06/12 08:02 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)



Don't check this because I didnt describe it.
It's the beginning of the end and you'll need someone to replace you if you're gone..
:cool:


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Re: Do you think people that commit suicide have figured it out? [Re: FunkMasterShroom]
    #17175320 - 11/06/12 08:52 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I think it's all about perspective.  The strange thing about life is it's constantly changing.  From every hour to every day our moods change, our perspective changes.  Some people say their life is happy or depressing... when in reality it is neither.  It is a combination of all the feelings we have felt our entire lives.  It is simply our perspective in the present which gives us the idea our life up to the present is good or bad.

Have they figured anything out?  Yes and No.  It depends on the perspective.


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