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VonShroomer
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Overlay, you bastard. - UPDATED WITH PICS
#17163788 - 11/05/12 04:48 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alright guys, been lurking here for awhile now so thought I'd finally take the step and sign up. Now before I start firing questions heres a little bit about my experience so far.
Ive done 3 full grows so far all PF tek -> monotubs. Substrate in those 3 monos was coir/verm. Using Damion5050's Coir Tek. No coffee, no gypsum. Just straight coir and verm.
1 tub was pes Amazonian, 1 tub was McKennai, 1 tub was chitwan.
They were all multispore. Results were ok, could of been better, could of been alot worse.
From there I decided to go with cloning, I chose 5 fruits in total from the PES Amazonians. Then used the syringe -> LC cloning tek. (sounded realativly easy, this wasnt the case in practice) Had a 2 out of 5 success rate.
So this left me with 2 LC's (4% honey tek) each containing a clone of an amazonian fruit. Ive named these BB and LTH. From now on I will refer to the clones by these names.
About a week later I decided that I wanted to do another clone, but alas all my mushrooms were dry. So, I took a DRIED MUSHROOM (6 days drying) and attempted to use the same syringe cloning -> LC tek. I pulled it off, but not sure if any spores got in the mix yet (its still colonising 2 monos) will keep you posted on that one. Ive named this one WUT.
I just wanna say tho, all tissue samples were taken from inside the stipe, even from the dried shroom.
Anyway, so the situation I'm in now is that I have:
1 62Ltr tub BB fruiting 1 45Ltr tub LTH fruiting (did have 2 but one contam'd, more on this soon) 2 45Ltr tubs WUT colonising 1 45Ltr tub LTH colonising 40 jars of BB colonising
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Right now, back to the problem. In the tub of LTH and BB that are fruiting there is ALOT of overlay. Especially in the LTH tub.
When i first put them into fruting it was about the 16th oct, they were kept on a friends floor in his kitchen where the temp was well below what they needed which obviously delayed fruiting. I moved into a new flat on the 2 november a few days ago which has a nice little walk in wardrobe, handily it has a radiator in there. Needless to say my tubs are now in there and the temp is being regulated. Within a day of me putting the tubs n there they are now pinning and fruits are growing nicely.
But as I said there is ALOT of overlay in the fruiting BB and more in the LTH tubs, my question is this: Is this going to be directly related to the long low temps at initial fruiting? (im talking like 10 degrees below nominal)
Both tubs have 5cm round holes at each end stuffed with polyfill, I dont mist, seems wet enough, i fan occasionally due to paranoia on the placement of my holes and CO2 buildup. I plan on taking some pictures soon when i cba to dig through all the boxes of stuff for my GF's digital camera, but for now this will have to do.
Im def losing yield due to this overlay, i will get pics up later.
If you need any extra info, let me know. -----------
pics of LTH tub. Whole tub:

Close-up of suspected overlay:

another close-up:

This is going to make you cringe RR but when I was high last night I decided to poke holes in the suspected overlay to allow air to circulate :P Using sterile tools tho ofc.
More pictures coming of BB tub.
Edited by VonShroomer (11/05/12 06:18 AM)
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RogerRabbit
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I've seen overlay two or three times in 40 years, so I doubt seriously you are seeing it, especially on an uncased bulk substrate. It's common for new growers to mistake full colonization for overlay. RR
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VonShroomer
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I was hoping I would get some input from you RR, I'll try and get some pics up for you now. Means taking them on my phone and emailing them to myself due to lack of cables and a camera at present, should take me no more than 20mins total.
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