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The history of amateur mycology...
    #17159362 - 11/04/12 12:43 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I am certain that the mid-to-late 1990's saw the explosion of growth in amateur mycology, facilitated by the exciting world wide web.

Is there a history of amateur mycology written up?  Anywhere on shroomery, or elsewhere on the internet? 
:tmckenna:
It would make a hell of an article for High Times or even scientific journals...I am sure thousands of discoveries in the field have been made in living rooms, garages, and the backyards of amateur mycologists.  I know that some copies of the PF Tek have a paragraph detailing the original PF Tek, and outlining the slight modifications the author has made.  I want to know if anyone has documented the history of amateur mycology and/or the history of this website.  I would estimate tens of thousands of people in the United States and Canada alone have attempted first-time mycological experiments in the past five years.

In fact, this website is a scientific community with ground-breaking research being conducted.  :brilliant:
There may be a number of Ph.D. members who regularly post here, and I imagine with the life experience some members have, dozens of universities would furbish Master's level or Doctorate degrees for some of the research members have done. :yeahthatsright: 


I am particularly interested in the PF Tek, when it was first developed, why it was developed (i.e.- what existed before it, if anything), and where amateur mycology is headed in the future- (e.g.- Will the PF Tek still be the de facto tek for beginners in 2022?)
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Re: The history of amateur mycology... [Re: BEETHOVEN] * 1
    #17159375 - 11/04/12 12:45 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

we should all be starting with agar

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Re: The history of amateur mycology... [Re: TheApprentice]
    #17159476 - 11/04/12 01:06 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

first time i ever saw someone growing shrooms indoors was in the mid 80's, a hippy we called 'dirt john' (he was real dirty, apparently went no where near water, ever) who framed a pile of shit into a basement corner.
wild thing is, he got some shrooms.


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Re: The history of amateur mycology... [Re: Fungal growth]
    #17159572 - 11/04/12 01:25 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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Fungal growth said:
first time i ever saw someone growing shrooms indoors was in the mid 80's, a hippy we called 'dirt john' (he was real dirty, apparently went no where near water, ever) who framed a pile of shit into a basement corner.
wild thing is, he got some shrooms.





moldy basement grows are funny

its a life form, it will try to live in any conditions that it thinks are remotely possible to live in. you can spray spores into a moldy pile of shit and eventually you'll get a couple shrooms lol. Of course if you sterilize grains so the only living thing in the jar is the spores, you have much better chances at producing fruit bodies :shrug:


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Re: The history of amateur mycology... [Re: Fungal growth]
    #17159709 - 11/04/12 01:48 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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Fungal growth said:
first time i ever saw someone growing shrooms indoors was in the mid 80's, a hippy we called 'dirt john' (he was real dirty, apparently went no where near water, ever) who framed a pile of shit into a basement corner.
wild thing is, he got some shrooms.



:poop:

hmmm, I wonder where Dirt John obtained his manure...?    :cuteshit:


Man, what a name!  Not, "dirty" John, but even worse: the actual personification of dirtiness:  Dirt John  :shittybill:


Imagine a 10 foot by 10 foot sandbox made out of 2x4s and plywood, just heaping with steamin hot turds.  Damn!  And it was indoors!


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Re: The history of amateur mycology... [Re: BEETHOVEN]
    #17159766 - 11/04/12 01:58 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

not just him. he had like 5 kids who seemed to live in under a big pine tree in the front yard, so they were always covered in dirt and pine sap.
we called them 'dirt children". lil fuckers always through pine cones at us. we'd yell "your tearing your house down!' but they wouldn't listen. just disapear back under their tree.
this is the city, not some country hippy commune. we weren't used to that kinda shit.

damn...i havent thought about dirt john and his dirt children since i saw joe dirt and wondered if it was part of his life story.


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Re: The history of amateur mycology... [Re: Fungal growth]
    #17159805 - 11/04/12 02:03 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Wow!  Outrageous story!!  I laughed.  Dirt is one thing, because it washes off, or even in a couple days, you can just rub the dirt off/into your skin and it disappears.  Tree sap is a whole different story though.  I use gasoline when I need to remove pine tree sap from my hands.

Throwing pinecones at you, while they are covered in treesap and dirt, under a giant pine tree (barefoot, I imagine) pissed off because you said you were going to tear down their house...I LOL'ed


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Re: The history of amateur mycology... [Re: BEETHOVEN]
    #17159865 - 11/04/12 02:14 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I believe it started with this man.
R. Gordon Wasson


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Re: The history of amateur mycology... [Re: BEETHOVEN]
    #17557577 - 01/16/13 03:20 PM (11 years, 13 days ago)

There isn't really a good written history of amateur mycology, such that in fact, you're rather mistaken about when things really got going. I'm currently planning on writing such a history, so setting the record straight will be possible.

For example, here in the Pacific Northwest, the big boost to amateur mycology came in 1964, when at the behest of the then president of the Pacific Science Center, Dixie Lee Ray (Yes, *that* Dixie Lee Ray), Ben Woo founded the Puget Sound Mycological Society.

In New York, in 1962, composer John Cage, re-established the moribund New York Mycological Society. There had been a burgeoning interest in mycology in the late 1800's and early 1900's around the work of one Capt. Charles McIlvaine, a Civil War veteran who went on a quest to sample (that is eat) every edible mushroom and catalog them so as to expand interest. The New York Mycological Society existed largely because in McIlvaine's day, the state of New York was employing Charles Horton Peck as state mycologist. Peck was *the* authority on mushrooms for North America in his day. As such he had to rely on armies of amateurs to report mushrooms to him.

The work of University of Michigan mycologist, Alexander H. Smith in publishing popular field guides to North America, and Daniel R. Stuntz & Margaret McKinney in publishing a beginner's guide to mushrooms in the Pacific Northwest, were instrumental in getting the ball rolling. My own grandfather was a past president of the Michigan Mushroom Hunter's Club, which still exists.

So, although local mushroom clubs existed for nearly a century or more. It took a government initiative in 1956 to get the ball rolling. Dwight Eisenhower inspired a program called "People to People Hobbies, Inc" an international friendship program, and an outgrowth of that was the "People to People Committee on Fungi", which under the leadership of Harold Knighton, morphed over the following decade to become the "North American Mycological Association".

Interest in fungi surged again in the 1970s. David Arora published the first edition of his book "Mushrooms Demystified" in 1976. Although the first edition was a rather limited release, by its second edition in 1986, it had become the go-to guide to mushrooms on the west coast. The increased availability of field guides has made mushrooming more accessible than ever, and where past books would only describe a few hundred mushrooms, Arora included over 2000, and did so with wit, charm and humor.

The Internet is then, part of an evolution of amateur mycology. My own involvement starts in about 1991, when I started a regular mushroom chat on AOL. This evolved over time into an email newsletter, "Mycoinfo" which lasted until about 2000. Around the same time, in Canada, Aldolf Czeska started "Botanical Electronic News" (BEN), which occasionally also ran mushroom related articles. BEN is still around today. Mycoinfo had a gopher archive, and there were regular discussion on the USENET newsgroup bionet.mycology. Bionet is no more, as is gopher, more or less.

Yes, things have REALLY taken off, but the history goes back a long, long way.


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Re: The history of amateur mycology... [Re: Brian_McNett]
    #17557690 - 01/16/13 03:47 PM (11 years, 13 days ago)

http://www.vice.com/read/12-inch-shroom-603-v16n2
if your really into the history of mushrooms its a great read. its been a while since i read it but this is the creation of the pf tek and a very awesome story you will be glad you read it trust me :pipesmoke:


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