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homemade fertilizer
    #17152535 - 11/03/12 09:58 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

i'm tired of be swindled with fertilizers; your homemade fertilizer recipe is welcome. thanks!


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Re: homemade fertilizer [Re: x7x_x7x]
    #17152830 - 11/03/12 10:55 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

just find this:

Human Urine – Sounds disgusting, but urine is considered sterile if the body it’s coming from is healthy and free of viruses and infection. High in nitrogen, urea contains more phosphorous and potassium than many of the fertilizers we buy at the store! If serving tomatoes that have been fertilized with pee gives you the “willies”, try it in the compost pile. A good ratio of urine to water would be 1:4. You can collect a cup of urine and pour it into 4 cups of water in a plastic bucket used outside for fertilizing plants. Pour 2 cups around the perimeter of each SMALL plant. For MEDIUM plants add 4 cups and LARGE plants deserve a good 6 cups of your personal home brew.

http://www.homegrownfun.com/natural-fertilizers-around-house/


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Re: homemade fertilizer [Re: x7x_x7x]
    #17153836 - 11/03/12 02:38 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Korean Natural Farming seems to center heavily around recipes for plant fertilizers and to take care of the soil.  Might have a look if you haven't already checked it out.  Here's just a quick link to some recipes to give you an idea http://naturalfarminghawaii.net/category/recipe/


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Re: homemade fertilizer [Re: PoC]
    #17153924 - 11/03/12 02:59 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

fermented Nettle..
never used it myself but heard from other people that it should be really good.

Take 1kg fresh nettle in 10liters water. Put outside into the sun, let it ferment and when its ready use it in diluted form.


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Re: homemade fertilizer [Re: Jimbolino]
    #17153969 - 11/03/12 03:07 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I take piss in my compost all the time. I believe it takes about 2 weeks for nitrogen to be ready for the plants though.
There is also humanure. Iv'e never tried it but they make an outdoor box with a toilet seat so you can shit on it.
You really got heat that shit up though to kill all the pathogens. Hot poop in a residential might not be good


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Re: homemade fertilizer [Re: savage.renegade] * 1
    #17155956 - 11/03/12 09:30 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Worm farm runoff is supposedly used by giant vegetable growers. A red variety might be bought online and fed organic waste, including paper.


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Re: homemade fertilizer [Re: durian_2008]
    #17178358 - 11/07/12 10:47 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

For my homemade fertilizer I just mix different ratios of blood meal, bonemeal, and Epsom salts depending on the needs of the plant, then I add some homemade compost.


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Re: homemade fertilizer [Re: savage.renegade]
    #17178503 - 11/07/12 11:14 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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I take piss in my compost all the time. I believe it takes about 2 weeks for nitrogen to be ready for the plants though.
There is also humanure. Iv'e never tried it but they make an outdoor box with a toilet seat so you can shit on it.
You really got heat that shit up though to kill all the pathogens. Hot poop in a residential might not be good




Actually the nitrogen,and other nutrients in your urine,are just like an all purpose liquid fertilizer.All the nutrients are available for your plants use as soon as you water with it.I used to use Urine.You have to dilute it though,straight urine will burn your plants up!That shows that the Nitrogen was already available for the plant on use:super:


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Re: homemade fertilizer [Re: Jimbolino]
    #17203786 - 11/11/12 09:17 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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Jimbolino said:
fermented Nettle..
never used it myself but heard from other people that it should be really good.

Take 1kg fresh nettle in 10liters water. Put outside into the sun, let it ferment and when its ready use it in diluted form.




Comfrey as well.  Nettle/Comfrey combo is very nutritious for plants.  It will stink when it's ready.  If you compost, make a compost tea from the mixture as well.


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Re: homemade fertilizer [Re: quadracer]
    #27922342 - 08/28/22 10:01 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

found a cool one


-collect dried eggshells
-crush eggshells into glass vessel
-fill with tap water
-let it sit around for 2 days at whatever temp your tent is, then walk by and look at it
-pour some citric acid in there
-set it down for awhile, then walk by and look at it. something happens



it will do this for a few day, then minerals start building up on the shells.


i believe the citric acid is reacting with the shells to convert the calcium in the shells to water soluble calcium + other minerals(?), may a true alchemist appear. the mineral buildup mostly dissolves when placed in new vessel and tap water. been feeding it to the nightshades they like it. going to try again with concentrated lemon juice

what would happen if we used powdered chicken bone instead of shells or/and vinegar instead of citric acid?


reminder to make nettle tea for silica. where else can we get that stuff? how do you make it water soluble? do we have to grind up the pretty rocks? should we start
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Edited by MadMuncher (08/28/22 10:06 AM)


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Re: homemade fertilizer [Re: durian_2008]
    #27922772 - 08/28/22 03:53 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Worm farm runoff is supposedly used by giant vegetable growers. A red variety might be bought online and fed organic waste, including paper.




So, now, I'm actually trying that, in real life.

A legally blind person only wants to work with bigger species. I inherited his setup for free.

I don't find that just one plastic tub of 'red wigglers' can break down fruits and vegetables as fast as you can grow them. Table scraps will pile up quick.

Mild damp is the ideal moisture level. That's enough to attract little black water ants, in my semi-arid region. Whatever these little insects eat, they like the bathtub, swimming pool, and a pretty clean sink. They swarm under the worm farm. (Cue diatomacious earth.)

There should not have been any runoff. Perhaps, solid waste could be used in compost tea.


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Re: homemade fertilizer [Re: MadMuncher]
    #27922788 - 08/28/22 04:01 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I have converted some magnetite to soft, soluble, red rust.

A large bar magnet has been placed on a long yard tool handle, like a broomstick, and is used to pick up sharp, metal objects from construction areas and where the swimming pool was set up.

Several spoonfuls of fine gravel will be attached, besides pieces of the neighbor's old shed, broken trawels, etc, etc. Like using a metal detector.


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Re: homemade fertilizer [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #27923482 - 08/29/22 03:15 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

just dont want to pick up oil with fine metal fillings from engines :wink: or oiled machining metals... black sand.. sure. just rub ur heavy mag through beach sand :smile:.


minerals dont buld up if are water soluble :wink: ur seeing membranes come off and perhaps some breking down of shell.. no need to soak in water stronger the acid the better. koreans use the lactic acid from ferments. just be sure once u dissolve the shells to test ph or add to ur waterings as dont want to acidify ur soil..

yes u can use bonemeal. or just toss it in the dirt :wink: calcium is important but usually not hard to come by for plants esp if watering from tap water (if get scale on ur shower alot of that is calcium) also dont want too much calcium alkalizing things. why grandmas add epsum salt to help get the calcium into the plant rather than actually adding calcium. more is often not better in farming.


lol just saw this is 9 yo

best things do double duty... crab insect shells. add minirals but also keep bugs away and trigger plant defence
alfalpha adds micro and macros and also growth hormones. higher protein higher N aminos(protein) are natural chelators and help drive nutrients into ur plants :wink:

O2 is single largest thing that will grow bigger plants. soft airy soil will grow bigger plants 9/10 times regardless of what additives u use. coir is wonderful for this and much better for beds as peat just breaks down and compacts after year or 2..but any stronger plant fibers will work.. straw wood waste hemp fibers etc etc


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Re: homemade fertilizer [Re: the man]
    #27925114 - 08/30/22 01:12 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

lactic acid thats so easy thanks for that. its pretty cool have you tried it? nightshades love it they get all shiny and colorful foliage. i noticed eggshells take forever to break down in pots and i have an unlimited supply so started cooking and soaking them and making potions. have to get water from the creek by hand the pump is way too loud. trusty little hole at the bottoms of the ripples so you could fill a bucket all the way but its so low rn you can only get like 1/3 bucket per scoop and theres all these little fish started hanging out in there so ive been mostly getting from the river but they both have a lot of algae rn so i have to fill up my drinking water in peoples yards when i come to steal their chickens n eggs while theyre at work. practical potent nutrient solutions. need to walk down to the ocean and load up a few goats full of seaweed, that good good w the microplastics and dead crabs. still got a big bag full of sunbleached clamshells to mess with. theres a pig downriver a ways ive been meaning to steal for dog food and blood meal. piling up fish guts no bears yet this year the fruit trees and berries had a bad season.
we need practical potent nutrient solutions for our potted plants while we hack out a space for them, solutions we can create without money from easily acquirable materials in a tent without electricity
like dandelion tea for veg and blackberry tea and apple juice for flower/fruit/seedset. dried sprinkled coffee grounds, feathers, nail clippings. how can we break the materials down for fast and powerful nutrient delivery

wtf is epsom salt how do you make it?



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Re: homemade fertilizer [Re: MadMuncher]
    #27925944 - 08/30/22 02:35 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

ive got to try that egg shell lava lamp thing!
chickens make lots of fertilizer, plus eggs.


just found out about comfrey, i need some of this ,
a hyperaccumilator good for composting, or fermenting a few days for a liquid fertilizer,
grows easy from seeds or rhyzomes, can break up hard soils, is recommended to plant away from garden.
feeds chickens and other farm animals, also can use to make a pain/inflamation salve.


list of plants that accumilate high nutrients for composting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_accumulator

in-ground worm-bed :


aquaponics:


microbes collecting:






compost tea:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_preta
this is an ancient method used to grow the rainforest :
just cover a burning fire with soil and broken pottery.
biochar :



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Re: homemade fertilizer [Re: ellomello] * 1
    #27932750 - 09/03/22 07:59 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I’ve been making tea for my Trichs with bamboo leaf, for silica. Sometimes adding Japanese day lily and lambs quarters. I know there are packed with good stuff for us, so, why not?


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Re: homemade fertilizer [Re: MadMuncher]
    #27945496 - 09/11/22 02:43 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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MadMuncher said:
found a cool one


-collect dried eggshells
-crush eggshells into glass vessel
-fill with tap water
-let it sit around for 2 days at whatever temp your tent is, then walk by and look at it
-pour some citric acid in there
-set it down for awhile, then walk by and look at it. something happens



it will do this for a few day, then minerals start building up on the shells.


i believe the citric acid is reacting with the shells to convert the calcium in the shells to water soluble calcium + other minerals(?), may a true alchemist appear. the mineral buildup mostly dissolves when placed in new vessel and tap water. been feeding it to the nightshades they like it. going to try again with concentrated lemon juice

what would happen if we used powdered chicken bone instead of shells or/and vinegar instead of citric acid?


reminder to make nettle tea for silica. where else can we get that stuff? how do you make it water soluble? do we have to grind up the pretty rocks? should we start
..




Baking your egg shells in oven at 200c + for about a hour also helps to dry them to make grinding them into a  fine powder easier
You can do this by hand with a large stone or brick on a hard surface or put into a blender
I use a good apple cider vinegar as my acid
A little of this solution mixed with molasses and water makes a wonderful organic homemade CalMag mix

Burying any vegetable or fruit scraps in a hole around//next to a plant is also a very easy way to give them extra nutrients with little work


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