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A different slant.
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BUSH?S ?LIE? By far the biggest story over the weekend was Bush?s supposed ?lie? in the State of the Union Speech. The Democrats obviously feel that they finally have an issue that they can use against Bush in 2004, even if it means undermining America?s victory in Iraq. Here, for those of you who were out camping over the weekend, are Bush?s controversial 16 words. ?The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.? Democrats and their fellow travelers in the media are saying that this was a lie. Not so. The statement was true when Bush made it, and is true today. Consider these words from Tony Blair to the British Parliament just last week: ?In the 1980?s Iraq purchased somewhere in the region of 200 or more tons of uranium from Niger. The evidence that we had that the Iraqi government had gone back to try to purchase further amounts of uranium from Niger did not come from so-called ?forged? documents, they came from separate intelligence.? Blair is standing by the findings of his governments intelligence forces. This would mean that Bush?s statement which begins with the words ?The British government has learned ?.? is correct. The problem is that you didn?t hear about Blair?s statement from one single major news outlet last week. Not one. CNN only started reporting it this morning. I guess we shouldn?t be surprised. Why would the mainstream media, which votes overwhelmingly Democrat, get in the way of a perfectly good opportunity to nail George Bush? Time will tell
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Interesting theory, as this news was floating around long before CNN picked it up, I even saw it on CBC newsworld.
Bush has his butt covered on this one, but Blair sure doesn't. The only thing that is gonna really hurt Bush is if there are still no WMDs when reelection time comes around.
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Re: A different slant. [Re: pattern]
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It doesn't matter. He'll be re-elected either way.
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Even if it was total BS, the "According to the British government" bit makes it not a lie. Rice said this weekend that the Brits are still claiming it is reliable intel, and it may be, but she said it should not have been included in the speach because it was not up to the level info in a Presidential speach should be.
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That's cool, it's about time we can blame the brits for a change.
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Re: A different slant. [Re: Innvertigo]
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I never really thought that to be a lie on Bush's part. Just like I don't consider Bush's former statements like "I don't think we should use our troops for nation-building" to be a lie, because I think being around neo-conservative intellectuals all day have changed his thought pattern.
It was totally unreliable information, but the blame wouldn't go on Bush's shoulders at all for stating that.
I agree with you that US media sucks. However, I wouldn't blame that omission on it being too "liberal." The corporate media is full of pussies and journalists who just don't look into things. My favorite journalist Greg Palast should have a job in the US, but had to work in the UK because no one here would hire him. He's been called "the greatest investigative journalist of our time," his most famous jobs being undercovering the British "Lobbygate" scandal by going undercover as an Enron representative, and by finding documents proving that whereabouts of 90,000 individuals were wrongly removed from Florida voter rolls, something even Katherine Harris admitted to. Once he broke this story, it was on the news worldwide, but NOT IN THE US.
What a travesty.
BTW, I disagree that Bush will be reelected... I smile every time I see his approval ratings drop.
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Re: A different slant. [Re: SlapnutRob]
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Yes, Bush's ratings have been sinking lately. Meanwhile, Howard Dean's support has been skyrocketing. He's only one percentage point behind Lieberman now.
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even if it means undermining America?s victory in Iraq.
What "victory"? We still haven't found any weapons,more of our troops are getting killed every day, a ton of experts estimate we'll be there for the next 2-5 years,and world wide political climate is shittier than it was before.
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Re: A different slant. [Re: monoamine]
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The media being too liberal-tell that to FOX news.
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Re: A different slant. [Re: monoamine]
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a ton of experts estimate we'll be there for the next 2-5 years Think it'll cost around 4 billion a month too. But we really can't afford to pay people decent welfare..oh no..that would cost way too much...
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I think the point is if you're going to claim something about a country "seeking uranium" you should know beyond all doubt that it's actually true. Copping out and saying "The British Government.." is as big a joke as when Colin Powell called the last british intelligence dossier "exquisite"
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Sadly the fact that the CIA beleived the information to be lies prior to the State of the Union address sort of negates any defence Bush might have as far as Im concerned.
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Re: A different slant. [Re: GazzBut]
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That's true, but I think the blame lies more on Bush's advisors/speechwriters.
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Re: A different slant. [Re: Cornholio]
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Cornholio said: Yes, Bush's ratings have been sinking lately.
Meanwhile, Howard Dean's support has been skyrocketing. He's only one percentage point behind Lieberman now.
We might as well stop talking about Lieberman. This is a three-way race now between Kerry, Gephardt, and Dean.
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Re: A different slant. [Re: SlapnutRob]
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SlapnutRob said: I think the blame lies more on Bush's advisors/speechwriters.
I would assume those people are selected by Bush, so isn't he at fault for picking those people?
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Re: A different slant. [Re: Cornholio]
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I guess it would all go back to Bush if you want to put it that way. Anyway, I agree with what Dean said: That members of the Administration, whoever they are, misled the American people, and they know who they are and should resign.
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Re: A different slant. [Re: SlapnutRob]
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SlapnutRob said: I agree with what Dean said: That members of the Administration, whoever they are, misled the American people, and they know who they are and should resign.
Or Bush should fire their asses if he is truly against the fact that they give him misinformation.
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Re: A different slant. [Re: Cornholio]
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or bush should be impeached and then tarred and feathered in central square in front of the masses.
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Re: A different slant. [Re: 1stimer]
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1stimer said: or bush should be impeached and then tarred and feathered in central square in front of the masses.
In order to be impeached he'd have to commit an impeachable offense.
I have little doubt you're aware he hasn't done so.
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luvdemshrooms said: In order to be impeached he'd have to commit an impeachable offense.
I have little doubt you're aware he hasn't done so.
Article II Section 4 of the US Constitution States "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."
Lying about the reasons for killing thousands of people may well qualify.
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Re: A different slant. [Re: Cornholio]
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I doubt it.
First, there's enough reasonable doubt that it'd be damn near impossible to prove even if true.
Second, as he was not under oath, there is no impeachable offense.
Keep dreaming.
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luvdemshrooms said: as he was not under oath, there is no impeachable offense. Keep dreaming.
I don't understand why you feel lying under oath is the only type of lie that is impeachable. The constitution certainly doesn't say that.
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Re: A different slant. [Re: pattern]
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"The only thing that is gonna really hurt Bush is if there are still no WMDs when reelection time comes around."
oh don't worry I think this next election will be quite a production
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So its bad to lie under oath but you can say whatever comes into your head during the State of Union address? Makes sense!
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Re: A different slant. [Re: Cornholio]
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luvdemshrooms said: as he was not under oath, there is no impeachable offense. Keep dreaming.
I don't understand why you feel lying under oath is the only type of lie that is impeachable. The constitution certainly doesn't say that.
It says high crimes and misdemeanors. IF Bush lied, that of itself is not an impeachable offense as he wasn't under oath. If simply lying was impeachable, there would be no politicians.
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is imcompetence an impeacheable offense?
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Re: A different slant. [Re: infidelGOD]
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Nope.
Good thing Bush isn't incompetent anyway.
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luvdemshrooms said: Nope.
Good thing Bush isn't incompetent anyway.
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Re: A different slant. [Re: silversoul7]
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There's a difference between you not liking him and his policies vs being incompetent.
What a surprise you don't realize that.
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I don't like him because his policies are incompetant. You act like everybody on this forum has a personal vandetta against someone they don't even know. I think his political decisions speak for themselves.
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Re: A different slant. [Re: monoamine]
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grandmasterfat said: I don't like him because his policies are incompetant.
Opinion.
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You act like everybody on this forum has a personal vandetta against someone they don't even know.
Everyone? Kind of a broad statement. Some do, some don't.
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I think his political decisions speak for themselves.
I'm sure you do.
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Wow,you stated my opinion was an opinion. Seriously,what was the point of your post?
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He and his administration had the information necessary to prevent 9/11. So either they were all too incompetent to put the pieces together or they were complicit. I'll be generous by giving him the benefit of the doubt and saying that it was incompetence, because anyone with more than two brain cells could tell during the election that he was an incompetent fool.
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I believe Bush may actually be incompetent. He is a fucking puppet, cut his strings and you would see how incompetent he truly is. I might be wrong but his resume is hardly shining. Especially when you consider most things he has achieved have been off the back of the family name rather than any real merit on his own part
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Re: A different slant. [Re: monoamine]
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I would think a rocket scientist such as yourself should have no trouble figuring that out.
Go read it again. Perhaps today will be a day you learn something else new.
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His administration cant even manage to liase with their own intelligence agency to verify information from a foreign agency which to me makes them/him INCOMPETENT
Or maybe just low level lying scum..
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Perhaps today will be a day you learn something else new.
Probably,but likely nothing from you.
Last time I checked,this was the Politics, Activism, and Law forum,not the "Objective Double Blind Scientifically Proven" forum. This forum is composed largely of opinions. It's pretty stupid when you counter something with "that's your opinion" without saying why.
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Re: A different slant. [Re: GazzBut]
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According to them, and Tenant, and Blair.... they did.
But I guess since you say they didn't, we'll go with your take on this.
I mean after all, someone without access to all the data they used must surely know more than the people who actually saw the data.... right?
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Re: A different slant. [Re: monoamine]
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My thoughts on Bush are clearly known and / or found.
It's pretty stupid when people either don't remember them, or are too lazy to look.
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Yes,I'm well aware of your loyalty to dubya,what's that have to do with anything? And if you posted everything you ever wanted to say, and I'm supposed to memorize all your opinions,what's your point in posting?
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Re: A different slant. [Re: monoamine]
#1720829 - 07/16/03 07:23 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why, to become best buds with you of course!
And hopefully to open the eyes of some who are still capable of listening / learning something new.
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And hopefully to open the eyes of some who are still capable of listening / learning something new.
Maybe you would get your point across a little better if you actually posted like a civilized human being without flaming someone every other post.I'm sorry that I haven't gone back and read everything you've ever posted and memorized it,but from what I've seen,you come across as nothing but an arrogant prick.
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GazzBut
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According to them, and Tenant, and Blair.... they did.
Even better... So the CIA and the Administration have a little chat and the CIA express serious doubts about the evidence and George goes ahead and says it anyway - TOTALLY INCOMPETENT.
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Re: A different slant. [Re: monoamine]
#1720850 - 07/16/03 07:32 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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That warms my heart and brings back memories of my youth when dear ol dad called me an egotistical arrogant young prick.
Thanks for the warm fuzzy feelings you brought back.
It brought a tear to my eyes.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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yeah but it turns out that the intelligence was incorrect, not only incorrect but a forgery. and this was presented to the American people as evidence for going to war. the fact that this was allowed to happen reeks of imcompetence. maybe not on the part of Bush himself but somewhere in his administration. so why aren't heads rolling at this point? either he is imcompetent or he allows imcompetence in his administration. it's pretty bad either way. I expect the president to run a tight ship. I know that Tenet has taken the fall for this but whatever happened to "the buck stops here"? Where is the leadership from Bush? why is he blaming the CIA? it could easily backfire on him.
Bush might seem invincible now, but if you know anything about politics you know that many people are watching his every move looking for the slightest sign of weakness. he's starting to slip up a little but now. this controversy won't go away and will probably be a major campaign issue. I imagine Middle America will vote for him again but there are those of us who expect more from the President.
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Re: A different slant. [Re: infidelGOD]
#1721035 - 07/16/03 09:16 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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this controversy won't go away and will probably be a major campaign issue.
You give far too much credit to the "average" american.
1. It's only a big issue to a minority, and an unproven one. 2. Most will forget it when they look for the remote control.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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GazzBut
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People are waking up quicker than you are giving them credit for Luvvie.(hopefully!)
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Re: A different slant. [Re: GazzBut]
#1721278 - 07/16/03 10:55 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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GazzBut said: People are waking up quicker than you are giving them credit for Luvvie.(hopefully!)
Yes they are. Which is why this country is swinging to the right.
And it's about time.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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GazzBut said: People are waking up quicker than you are giving them credit for Luvvie.(hopefully!)
Yes they are. Which is why this country is swinging to the right.
And it's about time.
Yes, the country has been swinging to the right; not because people are "waking up", but because of 9/11. Now it appears the pendulum is finally slowing. Bush needs to allow another 9/11 to slip through the cracks to get another boost to the right.
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Re: A different slant. [Re: Cornholio]
#1721338 - 07/16/03 11:16 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I disagree. I think it swinging right because people are tired of high taxes and little results, failed social policies, lax criminal punishment, the "victim" mentality, illegal immigration, and many other reasons.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Cornholio
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luvdemshrooms said: "I disagree. I think it swinging right because people are tired of:"
"high taxes and little results" - And thanks to Bush, we'll be paying taxes for a long time to come in order to pay down his debt.
"lax criminal punishment" -Tell that to the people in jail on drug charges
"the "victim" mentality" - Racism is still alive and well.
"illegal immigration" - See my previous comment.
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Re: A different slant. [Re: Cornholio]
#1721439 - 07/16/03 11:56 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yup, he the most recent in a long line of big spenders. Sad. Well so was Clinton but at least he got lucky with the economy.
I think the drug laws suck but I'm sure you know that's not what I was refering to.
Sure it is.... reverse racisim. But even that's not what I maent.
See mine.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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