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InvisibleDatDaNK420
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Let me clear this up...
    #1713010 - 07/14/03 12:55 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Ok do you have to use a bottom layer when you are casing? If so I need to redo my casing. If not, which I was told you do not have to,What do you suggest I do. I did a str8 verm casing. Cakes on bottom verm on top.


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Re: Let me clear this up... [Re: DatDaNK420]
    #1713017 - 07/14/03 12:56 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Some people like it some people don't. My faery godmother liked using it on her casing, as it gave her a sense that she had better moisture control with a bottom verm layer.


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Re: Let me clear this up... [Re: neutralizer]
    #1713152 - 07/14/03 02:12 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Ok, well i just redid the casing, and added a bottom layer, Also I added a lil brown rice flour for the top layer. I hope that doesnt fuck anything up.


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Re: Let me clear this up... [Re: DatDaNK420]
    #1713425 - 07/14/03 04:39 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Your casing shouldn't contain any nutrients (i.e. BRF).


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Re: Let me clear this up... [Re: DiMiTriSouljah]
    #1713433 - 07/14/03 04:44 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

lol yeah man your cakes are going to grw into the casing :frown:


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Re: Let me clear this up... [Re: DatDaNK420]
    #1713442 - 07/14/03 04:51 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

>I hope that doesnt fuck anything up.

It will for sure.


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Re: Let me clear this up... [Re: Anno]
    #1713553 - 07/14/03 07:59 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

a thin layer of coco coir on the top works great,imo. since you alrdy put BRF on the top,maybe you can save that casing life by just putting coco coir on top of that.


Your casing shouldn't contain any nutrients:


i don't get it man,i want my casing to have nutrients poop is nutritous yum!you must mean the casing layer right.


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Re: Let me clear this up... [Re: charvo]
    #1713573 - 07/14/03 08:24 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

O hell you got to be shitting me? So how about i scrape off all da top casing layer with the verm and BRF mixture, take out all the cake chunks and recase it? Will that be cool. I'm kinda pissed now I just wasted a shit load of verm. O well I must make mistakes to learn. And I guess I'm out of verm. LOL o fucking well 3 bucks a bag.


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Re: Let me clear this up... [Re: DatDaNK420]
    #1713601 - 07/14/03 08:57 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Ok, well I took out all the cake bits, rinsed them through a strainer, Put um up in the frig and and nuking some verm in the microwave right now. Boy does this suck a cock.


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Re: Let me clear this up... [Re: DatDaNK420]
    #1713606 - 07/14/03 09:07 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

yeah having brf exposed isn't even a risk its a sure failure.
Take the chunks out and wash them off well in running water and recase. You may even want to bleach dunk the chunks to be safe.
I never use a bottom verm layer. Its more effort so I figured it would be better to learn to case without it.
If this is your first casing it would be better to use coir. You can tell when it gets dry. Alot of people new to casing over water verm. Wait until it dries a little before you remoisten it.


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Re: Let me clear this up... [Re: mickywilliams2]
    #1713622 - 07/14/03 09:24 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Dont matter if they got a lil BRF stuck to um, they are dunking in cold water right now in the frig till the casing is cooled down. If there is a lil brf still on um that wont hurt it, it will just colonize the brf bits. I dont have coir duhh, you think id be using str8 verm if i had it?!?! Don't give advice if your gonna give me dumb answers. I established I fucked up. Thanks for telling me again. Sorry if i'm being an asshole but im hostile right now, I got to finish this casing then I got to take a nap cuz i been up all nite, and then i got to drive my dad to jail when I wake up. Fucking tons of fun let me tell ya!!!


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Re: Let me clear this up... [Re: DatDaNK420]
    #1713678 - 07/14/03 10:15 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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If there is a lil brf still on um that wont hurt it,




Yes it will. Let me explain...

Your casing material's main purpose is to provide humidity and stability for your mycelium, and to be inhospitable for other organisms which will compete with your mycelium. By the time you're building your casing, your mycelium is pretty much full of food and ready to start making mushrooms. Any additional food you put in your casing will mostly be eaten by competing organisms thus defeating one of the primary jobs of the casing; that is, being inhospitable to competitors.

The only reason you can put nutrients in your jars during colonization is because the substrate is sterile except for your spores. This isn't so for a casing.

Make sense?

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Re: Let me clear this up... [Re: DatDaNK420]
    #1713686 - 07/14/03 10:22 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

well I cant believe you can get any pleasure from typing asshole remarks. Personally I have to say them to someones face.
I think anyone who would put brf in there casing may not be experienced enough to know that coir is better than verm. Understand?
Hey umm that brf will contam very easy even if its stuck to the cake. I hate to give more dumn advise but I wouldnt risk it.
Hey admin
this is exactly why I dont post here very much.


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Re: Let me clear this up... [Re: Diploid]
    #1713688 - 07/14/03 10:23 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

to repeat above.. your brf on top would contaminate real fast.. and prevent mushrooms from showing up or being ok to eat!!!...

I hope you were EXTRA CLEAN when you picked the chunks of cake out of that already made casing.. cuz that's askin for contamination.!!!

if your cake chunks are in the fridge, i assume you have them dunked in water.. add some peroxide to that water !!!


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Re: Let me clear this up... [Re: PooPs]
    #1713694 - 07/14/03 10:27 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

oh. and btw.. you'll notice that doing this kind of work when you are dead tired is never the best idea.... sloppy mind = sloppy work!!



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Re: Let me clear this up... [Re: PooPs]
    #1713712 - 07/14/03 10:37 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

you'll notice that doing this kind of work when you are dead tired is never the best idea




Or when you're stoned... first-hand experience on this one. LOL

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