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OfflinePsilocybeingzz
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uh..........WHAT
    #1712528 - 07/13/03 10:10 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

So I have grown shroomies now, and I have a question , a good one ............I have been told that its better to wait until the jars have pins growing before birthing and that this is worth the effort much bigger shrooms etc etc , I belive it was Animita Dreamer that told me that...........BUT........I have also heard that its good to DUNK and COLDSHOCK before birthing


SO.........what should I do, take off the pins and then dunk and cold shock?? or birth the jars that have nice pins and wait until, inbetween flushes to dunk and cold shock???

do one , do the other ? whats a gnome to do?..............dont wanna waste the pins, and I thought the point was to wait until the pins are comming out cause I will get more shrooms and bigger shrooms , but can I scrap the pins , dunk and cold shock, and not really care to much because the pins that will come after will be better????
help me out please
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Re: uh..........WHAT [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #1712556 - 07/13/03 10:19 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

do whatever u like.... any of those methods would work....

if ur gonna do one, u cant do both... ie if u waited till they pinned and then took them off to cold shock then ur totally missing the point of invitro pinning...

personally i think invitro is retarted.... when their done colinizing, just cold shock/dunk them....


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Re: uh..........WHAT [Re: JohnnyR]
    #1712585 - 07/13/03 10:27 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I wouldn't worry about pins forming. Depending on your strain, that can take a really long time, especially if you leave the jars at 86F. If you drop them down to 70F or so, it might kick the process into gear, but you may still want to skip it.

My preferred method is to take the jars out as soon as they are fully colonized, dunk them in cold water, refridgerate for 6+ hours, and then birth. I've gotten pins in 7-12 days with everything so far that way.

As for potential size loss, I have no idea, but I will say that one of my *half*-cakes has 97 pins right now, so size should not be a problem.

For what it's worth, though, what strain are you working with? And regardless, definitely refridgerate, and definitely dunk.


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Re: uh..........WHAT [Re: Hannibal88]
    #1712705 - 07/13/03 11:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I've read that you are supposed to dunk WITH the pins still on if you have let them pin invitro. Just dont dunk them longer then 12 hours.
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Re: uh..........WHAT [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #1712876 - 07/14/03 12:13 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

So I have grown shroomies now, and I have a question , a good one ............I have been told that its better to wait until the jars have pins growing before birthing and that this is worth the effort much bigger shrooms etc etc , I belive it was Animita Dreamer that told me that...........BUT........I have also heard that its good to DUNK and COLDSHOCK before birthing----No don't wait till they have pins. When the surface of the jar is covered with myc wait a week then cold shock and dunk at the same time.


SO.........what should I do, take off the pins and then dunk and cold shock?? or birth the jars that have nice pins and wait until, inbetween flushes to dunk and cold shock???---Dunk the cakes between every flush.

do one , do the other ? whats a gnome to do?..............dont wanna waste the pins, and I thought the point was to wait until the pins are comming out cause I will get more shrooms and bigger shrooms , but can I scrap the pins , dunk and cold shock, and not really care to much because the pins that will come after will be better????---Don't scrap shit.

What the hell do I know.


Here ya go. This should just about answer it.

Grow Log
Tek : PF
Strain : South American [SA]
Spores : Came from homemade prints. 36 total jars to be injected.
Substrate :Brown Rice Flour [BRF] and Vermiculite [Verm]
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10:15 PM 3/4/03 : Project is started. Jar prep is just putting small holes in the lids for the spore syringe and then taping them closed until inoculation. Tape used is the standard black electrical tape. First batch of jars is mixed. The mix used is 2 parts verm, 1 part water, and 1 part brf. [ This mix is the max fruiting formula by PF.] Mix is put into 1/2 pint canning jars lightly, not packed in, and left it airy. Put substrate in until it reaches the threads of the jar, then add dry verm the rest of the way.
Jars are PCd at 10psi or 240f for a period of 45 minutes. Then jars were left to sit overnight to cool.


8:39 PM 3/5/2003 : First batch of jars injected. (24 jars)

10:04 AM 3/6/2003 : Incubator is running to low 77F. Going to turn it up today.


5:45 PM 3/6/2003 : Second batch of jars is in the PC will be injected tomorrow. Turned up incubator runs at 83F. 86F is the best and if the incubator is 83F and myc growing in the jars is suppose to create a little heat I figure this should work out well.

1:11 PM 3/7/2003 : Second batch of jars is done. (12 jars)

12:10 PM 3/9/2003 : Jars are doing good, no signs of contams


2:54 AM 3/19/2003 : Tape removed from the holes today and coffee filters put over the top of the jars for added protection. Holes were opened so the CO2 in the jars could escape. I gave 12 jars to a friend who kept fucking up. 24 jar?s about 75%done.


12:13 PM 3/22/2003 : Well it's Saturday and the jars will probably be done by the 25th. So it was 36 jars. 12 were given to a friend, 24 done by Tuesday.

10:26 PM 3/23/2003 : 15 jars were done enough to put into dunk. I dunk and cold shock before birthing and after every flush. The other 9 jars have a spot the size of a pea that has to be covered so I'll do those on the 25th.


7:17 PM 3/24/2003 : 15 jars put into the pod. Put in and put a layer of moist verm on top. With geolite I just put the cakes on it. With some other chambers I put the cake on a lid filled with verm. This is done to give the shrooms on the bottom and the top of the cake some added moisture.
The other 9 jars just finished so I'm going to give them a couple more days to make sure the middle of the cake is done.


4:57 PM 3/27/2003 : 5 More cakes birthed today, 4 left going to do them tomorrow or 3/29/2003

3:58 PM 3/29/2003 : Well I lost another cake. My wife's little 1 cake pod made from a 2 liter and a small fish pump and a little geolite used up her last cake so I gave her a SA to grow. The last 3 are in the cold shock dunk.
So the total is 36 jars done all colonized with no contams. 12 given to a friend, 1 to the wife, 23 mine

12:08 PM 3/30/2003 : Last of jars put in

12:02 PM 3/31/2003 : The first 15 cakes are pinning nicely and some have shrooms coming from the bottom.


11:01 AM 4/3/2003 : Things look to be going well.


1:02 AM 4/4/2003 : Took the first flush from four of the cakes. More will be done later today.


5/8/2003 : Total 23 cakes 164 grams dried.





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Re: uh..........WHAT [Re: Magash]
    #1713036 - 07/14/03 01:06 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

lol. I love it when you post that Magash. I love looking at those pics. lol.
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Re: uh..........WHAT [Re: MrSleep]
    #1720505 - 07/16/03 05:18 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

cool thanks


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