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The nation's drug czar recruited local religious leaders Sat
    #1710168 - 07/13/03 12:36 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DRUGS_RELIGION?SITE=WCNC&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=NATIONAL.html

Jul 12, 9:02 PM EDT

U.S. Drug Czar Promotes Faith-Based Guide

By KELLY KURT
Associated Press Writer

TULSA, Okla. (AP) -- The nation's drug czar recruited local religious leaders Saturday in the war on drugs.

The call to arms came as John Walters, director of National Drug Control Policy, held his first news conference since announcing Thursday his national drive to enlist faith-based youth groups in anti-drug programs. The effort is the Bush administration's latest effort to expand the role of religious organizations in government services.

Saying he visited Tulsa in part because of "violence that is taking too many lives," Walters met with Christian and Muslim representatives. Jewish leaders, unable to attend because of the Sabbath, endorsed the program in writing.

The city has been plagued in recent months by a string of shootings believed to be tied to gangs and drugs.

"We know that youth who are involved in their faith are many times less likely to be involved in self-destructive behaviors," Walters said.

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The government's brochure, "Pathways to Prevention," encourages working anti-drug messages into sermons, suggests youth leaders discuss what their faith teaches about drug abuse - and that they lead prayers asking for strength for youth to say no to "bad influences."

National surveys suggest only 2 percent of faith communities explicitly talk to youths about substance abuse, Walters said.

But he said teenagers tell him the culture sends them a clear sign "they're expected to experiment with drugs and alcohol."

Sheryl Siddiqui of the Islamic Society of Tulsa said she hadn't read the booklet yet, but thought it would offer helpful resources.

"Many of us work with youth in our congregations," she said. "The more information they put in our hands, the more assistance we can provide."

Others wanted more to help combat drug use among youth.

"I'm looking for something that has teeth," said the Rev. Milford Carter of Sanctuary Evangelistic Church. "Churches have been dealing with these issues for years with low budgets but lots of faith."

He said he wants not only funding for church-based drug programs, but federal solutions for the economic problems of the poor who use or sell drugs.

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On the Net:

Faith-based anti-drug effort: http://www.theantidrug.com/faith

Drug policy office: http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov

Copyright 2003 Associated Press. All rights reserved.


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Re: The nation's drug czar recruited local religious leaders Sat [Re: Static]
    #1710177 - 07/13/03 12:39 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Keep religion out of school but then ask for religons help fighting a war against the people and keeping medicine out of peoples hands.
Total B.S.  :shake: 


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Re: The nation's drug czar recruited local religious leaders Sat [Re: Static]
    #1710196 - 07/13/03 12:46 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

And at once the skies opened and bush proclaimed he shall further poison the church with his unjust war on drugs. And Im not Andy Rooney but wasent one idea that America was founded upon was that all aspects of government and its actions cannot affect or be derived from the church


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Re: The nation's drug czar recruited local religious leaders Sat [Re: Static]
    #1710334 - 07/13/03 01:35 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I can't say this bothers me at all.


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Re: The nation's drug czar recruited local religious leaders Sat [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1710403 - 07/13/03 01:59 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Seems like a violation of the establishment clause to me.


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Re: The nation's drug czar recruited local religious leaders Sat [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1710429 - 07/13/03 02:06 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

likewise


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Re: The nation's drug czar recruited local religious leaders Sat [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1710454 - 07/13/03 02:12 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I can't see how.


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Re: The nation's drug czar recruited local religious leaders Sat [Re: Static]
    #1710466 - 07/13/03 02:21 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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"We know that youth who are involved in their faith are many times less likely to be involved in self-destructive behaviors," Walters said.




God,I hate when people automatically think correlation=cause. I'm not saying that finding religion can't help people quit or start using drugs,but most these people probably wouldn't have used anyway. Just like you are statistically more likely to use cocaine if you have previously used marijuana,but marijuana doesn't cause most people to go on to cocaine.


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Re: The nation's drug czar recruited local religious leaders Sat [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1710472 - 07/13/03 02:28 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Baby_Hitler said:
I can't see how.



Government is making alliances and respecting particular religions to further politics. The first Amendment outlaws this sort of thing.


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Re: The nation's drug czar recruited local religious leaders Sat [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1713808 - 07/14/03 11:55 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Not only that, but if the information is even twice as accurate as most government information it will still be half lies, which puts the government in the position of using churches and faiths to diseminate false information. An effect of this, if the lies are blatant enough (as they usually are in anti-drug literature), may be to make the young people look with a more sceptical eye upon everything else the religious place, whatever it may be, is trying to teach them.


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Re: The nation's drug czar recruited local religious leaders Sat [Re: Static]
    #1713892 - 07/14/03 12:46 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

When it comes down to it the war on drugs is a kindler and gentler religious war.




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Re: The nation's drug czar recruited local religious leaders Sat [Re: Learyfan]
    #1713915 - 07/14/03 12:58 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Well,it's not very kind,nor gentle.


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Re: The nation's drug czar recruited local religious leaders Sat [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1713930 - 07/14/03 01:03 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Rail_Gun said:
Seems like a violation of the establishment clause to me.



I'm not happy with any aspect of the drig war but I don't see your problem with this.



Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;


The fed's are neither establishing nor prohibiting a religon.


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