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OfflineHannibal88
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Vendors Getting Strains Confused
    #1709029 - 07/12/03 06:33 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I've noticed that a lot of vendors are selling strains under incorrect names, and then, in turn, some of their buyers are (unknowingly) re-selling them as the wrong types. I've also heard that some strains are identical to one another, and that they are only listed as different because vendors don't realize they're selling a different strain. Examples:
Z-strain and Golden Teacher
Z-strain and Ecuadorian
Amazonian and Mattias Romero
Mazatapec and Mexican
Australian and Tasmanian


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Re: Vendors Getting Strains Confused [Re: Hannibal88]
    #1709059 - 07/12/03 06:44 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Amazonian and Mattias Romero
Mazatapec and Mexican





Those two I would have to disagree with. I always thought the Matias Romero was identical to the PF Classic strain (through reading here), while it is very different from the Amazonian in my own observations. While characteristics of Cubensis can be very similar from strain to strain, those are not identical IMO. I would also like to add that it has been speculated that the Z strain is Golden Teacher, but it cannot be Ecuador also. Ecuador and Golden Teacher strains are very different IMO. I have no experience with this Z strain, so I cannot add any info regarding its origins.

The key here is very similar, but not identical...


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Re: Vendors Getting Strains Confused [Re: Hannibal88]
    #1711130 - 07/13/03 12:39 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Hannibal88 said:

Mazatapec and Mexican





Maria Sabina gave Wasson mazatapec mushrooms on his first trip, and she took them with him, but her personal favorite were the mexican mushrooms. Totally different mushrooms.

I had a vendor give me koh samui spores instead of EQ, but it still worked and there was no problem in the end. www.psilocybe-spores.com


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Re: Vendors Getting Strains Confused [Re: psilo9com]
    #1734409 - 07/21/03 10:35 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

No She gave him 'little birds' as in Psilocybe Caerulescens/Psilocybe Mexicanna or Psilocybe Zaptocerum - all of which are not coprophilus (manure) species like Psilocybe cubensis. Infact, when San Isidro (cubensis) was imported into mexico it was found to be 'lacking' the spirituality that the native psilocybes provided.
As for cubensis - mazatapec, mexicubes, palenque are three seperate and distinct strains - ive grown all three and can vouch for that. Tasmanians and Australians are both actually from similar areas, but the tassie has much better genetics (tasmania is far to cold for cubensis). PF Classic and Matias Rom. appeared to be different strains to me, but that could have been due to the poor spore matches i got with the PF.


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Re: Vendors Getting Strains Confused [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1735735 - 07/21/03 06:44 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I noticed that lil shope of spores was selling "Z-Strain" and now they call it "Z-strain AKA Gloden teacher"


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Re: Vendors Getting Strains Confused [Re: Psilocybin_monkey]
    #1737613 - 07/22/03 09:19 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

z-strain was initially a ridiculously priced print i think $100. i wouldnt be surprised if it was some chancer claiming he had a new strain which was really a GT

PF hawaian is aka golden teacher.

i think i remember PF himself saying PF classic was not matias rom

what is in a name? A golden teacher by any other name would still get you as sweetly high


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Re: Vendors Getting Strains Confused [Re: blackout]
    #1781689 - 08/05/03 02:51 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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PF hawaian is aka golden teacher.





not true. very similar, but GT's taste significantly worse than any cubie i've tried, making them distinctly different IMHO.

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i think i remember PF himself saying PF classic was not matias rom




nope. he said his strain was sold elsewhere as RM and amazon. i haven't seen amazons yet to make a judgement.



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Re: Vendors Getting Strains Confused [Re: BrainFarmer]
    #1781748 - 08/05/03 03:12 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Well it's not that they are being confused. For the most part names are simply the location where they were collected.

However there is a vendor (Spore Trading Post AKA STP) who decided against using the traditional name and renamed some strains. Most notibly "Keeper's Kreeper" and the "Z-Strain". For along time many vendors refused to carry these "strains". In the recent past the mind set has change from not carring them into as long as they are going to exist might as well offer them for a much cheaper price.

In closing if it's not named after a location it's most likely made up. You will still get the results you want from these strains.


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Re: Vendors Getting Strains Confused [Re: MicronMagick]
    #1781824 - 08/05/03 03:31 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

If you don't like the taste of the Golden Teacher, eat it fresh. It is delicious, and has a much better texture(as with all mushies). just remember to take 10X as much as dry weight, such as 25 grams instead of 2.5.


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