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Company claims it can turn air into gasoline
    #17090148 - 10/24/12 01:37 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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The next time you head to northern England make sure to stop and take a deep breath of — gasoline.

This strange sounding idea comes from a company that claims to be able to turn fresh air into the same gasoline that runs cars.

Not only that, but the process that small British company Air Fuel Synthesis perfected also extracts ozone-layer-harming carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, according to The Independent.

Shockingly, this miraculous innovation is the real deal according to Tim Fox, head of energy and the environment at the Institution of Mechanical Engineers in London.
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Scientists in England has created a refinery that turns fresh air into gasoline, a process that promises to lower fuel costs while saving the environment.

“It sounds too good to be true, but it is true. They are doing it and I've been up there myself and seen it. The innovation is that they have made it happen as a process,” Fox said.

The process that the company has created starts by mixing electrofied carbon dioxide extracted from the atmosphere with sodium carbonate to produce pure carbon dioxide.

The pure carbon dioxide is then mixed with hydrogen produced from electrolyzed water vapor to create methanol, which is passed through a gasoline fuel reactor to create good old fashioned gasoline.

"We've taken carbon dioxide from air and hydrogen from water and turned these elements into [gasoline]," said Peter Harrison, the company's chief executive.

There are major stumbling blocks, however, in taking the sensational prospect of air-into-gasoline to the mainstream.

For starters, the company has been running what they call their “small refinery” for three months and have only produced about one gallon of gas.

Besides that is the usual problem that comes with almost all new technologies: cost.

However, Professor Klaus Lackner of Columbia University says that both problems can be overcome given time.

"I bought my first CD in the 1980s and it cost $20 but now you can make one for less than 10 cents. The cost of a light bulb has fallen 7,000-fold during the past century," Professor Lackner said.



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Re: Company claims it can turn air into gasoline [Re: Deadkndys420]
    #17090165 - 10/24/12 01:43 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

:eek: i see the science standing up for this.


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Re: Company claims it can turn air into gasoline [Re: the human abstract]
    #17090189 - 10/24/12 01:52 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Pretty interesting, but it might just be a neat trick and not that practical.

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However, amidst the headlines, some media coverage overlooked the key point: the energy efficiency of the process has yet to be demonstrated. This matters because the technique uses electricity for key stages. It should not require more energy input than is gleaned from burning the fuel it produces.

The big idea is to capture atmospheric CO2 and turn it into fuel so there's no net increase in CO2 from cars and trucks fuelled by such gasoline. As long as the process is powered by renewable electricity sources such as solar, wind or tidal, using the gasoline is carbon neutral.

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Re: Company claims it can turn air into gasoline [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #17090197 - 10/24/12 01:56 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
Pretty interesting, but it might just be a neat trick and not that practical.

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However, amidst the headlines, some media coverage overlooked the key point: the energy efficiency of the process has yet to be demonstrated. This matters because the technique uses electricity for key stages. It should not require more energy input than is gleaned from burning the fuel it produces.

The big idea is to capture atmospheric CO2 and turn it into fuel so there's no net increase in CO2 from cars and trucks fuelled by such gasoline. As long as the process is powered by renewable electricity sources such as solar, wind or tidal, using the gasoline is carbon neutral.

New Scientest







That was my exact thought when I read the article as well... same problem I have with electric cars being touted as "green" when that entirely depends on where the electricity is coming from... if its from hydro or solar power, then yeah the car is green. but if the power is being produced from coal all your doing is moving the pollution from the car itself to the electrical plant and possibly creating even more pollution.


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Re: Company claims it can turn air into gasoline [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #17090202 - 10/24/12 01:58 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

the basics of it.  if i were to bring my dreams into constipating my pump station i would need air injections.  Injecting others would be dangerous with factors with pressure.

the Onet would be the only title, worthy of the i but not the o


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Re: Company claims it can turn air into gasoline [Re: the human abstract]
    #17090207 - 10/24/12 01:59 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

i don't even


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Re: Company claims it can turn air into gasoline [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #17090226 - 10/24/12 02:08 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
Pretty interesting, but it might just be a neat trick and not that practical.

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It should not require more money input than is gleaned from burning the fuel it produces.







If the Brits can work a deal with France and start pulling in some good 'ol nuclear power, this would become quite feasible.


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Re: Company claims it can turn air into gasoline [Re: fiddle]
    #17090251 - 10/24/12 02:17 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

india won't die that's the only part of the world that is important.  I would defend india pretty easily by having a super power hand it to me.  I think the churches there would easily agree with the rev


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