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Amazonian = Weak? (And Wet:Dry Weights)
    #1708918 - 07/12/03 06:00 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

A friend of mine picked and ate 25g of fresh Amazonians, but didn't get a very strong experience. Some factors that might have affected it are:
- The mushrooms were not very developed (still small)
- Most of the fruit bodies were growing at the base of the cakes, right on the perlite, so they may have been very water heavy
- One experienced cultivator/vendor that I know personally and trust said that Amazonian is a crappy strain because it tends to be quite weak

Any comments on which is most likely to have caused the problem for my friend?


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Re: Amazonian = Weak? (And Wet:Dry Weights) [Re: Hannibal88]
    #1708926 - 07/12/03 06:02 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

eat more


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Re: Amazonian = Weak? (And Wet:Dry Weights) [Re: george castanza]
    #1708948 - 07/12/03 06:07 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

"eat more"

Unfortunately, that wasn't an option, since there wasn't much growing yet. Also, he was trying to gauge the potency of a dry eighth, not go balls to the wall. Since potency is higher in fresh, he figured 25g fresh = 3.5g dry, but apparently, that didn't work properly.


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Re: Amazonian = Weak? (And Wet:Dry Weights) [Re: Hannibal88]
    #1708954 - 07/12/03 06:09 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yeah, eat more. amazonians are a fine strain


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Re: Amazonian = Weak? (And Wet:Dry Weights) [Re: shirley knott]
    #1708962 - 07/12/03 06:11 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

LOL

Amazons have got a good rep. man, you just need to eat more. :laugh:


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Re: Amazonian = Weak? (And Wet:Dry Weights) [Re: shirley knott]
    #1708964 - 07/12/03 06:11 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

i thought 25 g's fresh would be more like 2.3-2.5 gm wet. i dont know thats just what i read.


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Re: Amazonian = Weak? (And Wet:Dry Weights) [Re: Jackal]
    #1708968 - 07/12/03 06:12 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

What's a realistic conversion from fresh to dry in terms of dosage? Has anyone worked with fresh before? Would it be better to do 35g fresh =3.5g dry?


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Re: Amazonian = Weak? (And Wet:Dry Weights) [Re: shirley knott]
    #1708969 - 07/12/03 06:13 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

kramer eats any where from 2-4.5 dry grms to get off
so next time save up 3 dry grams and try that if your worried about fresh weight



at least thats what kramer says


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Re: Amazonian = Weak? (And Wet:Dry Weights) [Re: Hannibal88]
    #1708970 - 07/12/03 06:13 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

What's an approximate potency loss with drying, assuming a careful technique involving Drierite dehydration?


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Re: Amazonian = Weak? (And Wet:Dry Weights) [Re: Hannibal88]
    #1708975 - 07/12/03 06:15 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Hannibal88 said:
What's an approximate potency loss with drying, assuming a careful technique involving Drierite dehydration?



none


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Re: Amazonian = Weak? (And Wet:Dry Weights) [Re: four20snakeman]
    #1708977 - 07/12/03 06:15 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

you read correct. and for some people, that would be a fine trip. not for me, though (it's a genetic thing). i like 5g dry minimum. also, his version of a weak experience and yours, and mine, and the guy next door's, are almost certainly very different.

you want a big big BIG mindfuck? try a large dose of ketamine :laugh: that's what i'm talkin about 


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Re: Amazonian = Weak? (And Wet:Dry Weights) [Re: Hannibal88]
    #1708979 - 07/12/03 06:15 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

i really cant tell the loss in potency if i eat 30g wet its about the same as a 2.5g dry


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Re: Amazonian = Weak? (And Wet:Dry Weights) [Re: Hannibal88]
    #1708980 - 07/12/03 06:16 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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What's an approximate potency loss with drying, assuming a careful technique involving Drierite dehydration?




Very little loss using a dessicant.


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Re: Amazonian = Weak? (And Wet:Dry Weights) [Re: Jackal]
    #1708985 - 07/12/03 06:17 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

"Very little loss using a dessicant."

What's realistic for a street dealer? I don't know what is the usual drying method among less careful growers.


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Re: Amazonian = Weak? (And Wet:Dry Weights) [Re: Hannibal88]
    #1708992 - 07/12/03 06:20 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Obviously you need to find out from the dealer, he's the only who knows.

Different people - different methods, but the less heat involved the better.


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Re: Amazonian = Weak? (And Wet:Dry Weights) [Re: Hannibal88]
    #1708994 - 07/12/03 06:21 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

dry them with a fan dude, don't sweat the loss there is none




says kramer


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Re: Amazonian = Weak? (And Wet:Dry Weights) [Re: george castanza]
    #1708999 - 07/12/03 06:23 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

So what's with the Shroomery's dosage calculator, that says 30% psilocybin loss is average from wet to dry? Just assuming sloppiness?


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Re: Amazonian = Weak? (And Wet:Dry Weights) [Re: Hannibal88]
    #1709001 - 07/12/03 06:23 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yes


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