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InvisibleSemilanceata
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    #1708745 - 07/12/03 02:52 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Hola, I would like to know if growing american mushrooms in an european forest (in Spain), would harm the native mushrooms.


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Re: Outside growing [Re: Semilanceata]
    #1710006 - 07/12/03 09:38 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

youd be introducing a totally unknown species to the area.. Theres a chance that it will harm them as with all intruding species. I would not reccomend trying to cultivate mushrooms in a forest..

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    #1710817 - 07/13/03 03:11 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Most of the cultivated species from America naturally occur also in Europe. What kind of mushrooms did you have in mind?

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Re: Outside growing [Re: zeronio]
    #1710907 - 07/13/03 04:48 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Morchella esculenta. He have this mushroom here too, but isn?t easy to get spores/cultures. I?ve got some once, but were from the wild and everything got contaminated. The question is if spores/mycelium of the american morchella could be much more agressive than the native ones and could harm the growth of the spanish specie. In fact, our rivers lost all of their native crabs due to the introduction in the 70?s of the american river crab that was bigger and more agressive. I know a crab is not a mushroom, but who knows ?

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Re: Outside growing [Re: Semilanceata]
    #1710950 - 07/13/03 07:11 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

There's always a small chance that something goes wrong, but I'm almost 100% sure that american Morchella esculenta isn't much different then european one. Morels are not agressive mushrooms and outdoor patches are not so easy to establish. They also don't harm other species - they're not pathogen. Every mushroom farm grows species that are not localy found and release tons of spores in the environment. For example shiitake was brought from Japan but even in many years of commercial growing it still didn't spread in wild.

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Re: Outside growing [Re: Semilanceata]
    #1710987 - 07/13/03 08:14 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Unless you're going to try and turn the whole forest into a big mushroom patch, I wouldn't worry about it too much.

If it were a mushroom "super species", it probably would have attained world domination already.....and spores get transferred all sorts of ways already.

-psy


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Re: Outside growing [Re: psyconaut]
    #1711056 - 07/13/03 09:34 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Gracias amigos for your help.


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Re: Outside growing [Re: Semilanceata]
    #1715210 - 07/14/03 05:04 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Oh, and remember this: if you believe some people, mushrooms aren't even necessarily native to this planet ;-)

-psy


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