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Re: The Air Force is Unconstitutional [Re: Cornholio]
    #1713898 - 07/14/03 10:49 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

You're more likely to be shot with your own gun than use it for self defense.


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Re: The Air Force is Unconstitutional [Re: Cornholio]
    #1713952 - 07/14/03 11:17 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

There have been several studies on just that question.

Here's one.

Here's another.

A Washinton Times Reprint.

Interesting Tidbits.


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Re: The Air Force is Unconstitutional [Re: monoamine]
    #1713955 - 07/14/03 11:18 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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grandmasterfat said:
You're more likely to be shot with your own gun than use it for self defense.



Only brainwashed fools and gun-haters still buy into that myth.


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Re: The Air Force is Unconstitutional [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1714015 - 07/14/03 11:45 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Source? Are you taking into account suicides and homicides by family members? I skimmed over those links,but I didn't really find anything.


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Re: The Air Force is Unconstitutional [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1714024 - 07/14/03 11:48 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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brainwashed fools




Seriously,do you enjoy being an asshole? A simple you're wrong,this is why would have sufficed.And if I am indeed wrong about a statistic,that makes me a brainwashed fool?


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Re: The Air Force is Unconstitutional [Re: monoamine]
    #1714056 - 07/14/03 12:01 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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Seriously,do you enjoy being an asshole?



If I was one I'm sure I'd enjoy it. I enjoy just about everything else.

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A simple you're wrong,this is why would have sufficed.



If it would have accurately conveyed my thoughts, I'd have just said your wrong.

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And if I am indeed wrong about a statistic,that makes me a brainwashed fool?



Only you can answer that since I don't know you.

Why would I count suicides? You said shot with your own gun. Was I incorrect in taking that as shot by another person?

Anyway, here's a link for you.

There's lots more out there if this doesn't satisfy you.
I'll sum it up for you using various sources.\
in 1999:
10,828 murders.
16,599 suicides.
2,000,000 defensive uses of guns by civilians. (by civilians, not law enforcment or military)


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Re: The Air Force is Unconstitutional [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1714075 - 07/14/03 12:05 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Why would suicide with your own weapon not be "shot with your own gun"?


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Re: The Air Force is Unconstitutional [Re: monoamine]
    #1714086 - 07/14/03 12:08 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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grandmasterfat said:
Why would suicide with your own weapon not be "shot with your own gun"?




"to be shot" infers another doing the shooting.
To shoot, would infer the gun in your own hand.

If you say you meant suicides as well, I'll take your word.

Doesn't change the statistics though.


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